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Old 01-06-2020, 02:38 AM   #1
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Cal's point in one of his episodes was great, that if the MOTA is to reveal the hidden things, how can anyone say all the hidden things are revealed and there are none left to reveal? The whole point is they are hidden so how would anyone know?
Right. "All mysteries are solved. All truths are now revealed." So says the one who has stopped seeking, and tries to discourage others. But Jesus said, "Seek, and you will find." How can anyone say they've figured it all out?

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If there was a spiritual age that was over that, ostensibly, was traceable from the OT to the present time, you'd think the Bible would have at least a whisper about it. But curiously, nope. I wonder why
It was really a weird moment, one of many, unfortunately. "The age is over, and a new one has begun." No scripture offered. And everyone just sat there and took it, like we always did.
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Old 01-06-2020, 01:10 PM   #2
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Another thing is the circular reasoning behind it, that there's one vision per generation, held solely by the ministry of the age, and its chosen vessel of revelation, aka 'God's oracle'. Says who? Well, God's Oracle says so. But how do you know he is God's Oracle, the MOTA? Why, because he has the vision of the age! Surely anyone can see that!

Then, that chosen vessel of revelation leaves this mortal coil, and the vision of the age is now that there's no more vision. Because the age has turned, you see? That's part of the revelation, the corollary that it ends with the last seer.

It goes: Moses, Samuel, Jesus, Paul, Luther, current MOTA, then nothing. And you can pretty much plug in Haile Selassie, Sun Myung Moon, Brigham Young, Felix Y. Manalo, or any other - the formula is the same.

"I have the vision."
Oh, what's the vision?
"That I have the vision."

The rest is just filler.
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