Merged Thread: Ron Kangas

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Curious

We are doing a particular thing here on this thread, and elsewhere on this forum.

My main hope and prayer is that this will help lurkers. Those current LCer’s secretly reading this forum who are gradually shifting their paradigm. I hope it helps them to break out of the haze that comes over their minds to confuse and almost bewitch them whenever the familiar wording and concepts reach out at them, through statements issued by the LSM wordsmiths. The style of speaking, and use of key words are so familiar, and a person is so conditioned to not be able to process the statements critically. ie, there is an ingrained conditioned response to key words and phrases (like the word ‘proper’) that can disempower the questioning LCer’s mind. The extent to which the person’s mind has been dominated by this style of speaking determines how hard this is to battle. It’s a form of ‘fear-based, mind-control programming’. We are breaking it down for them. I hope it is working.

Each of us must learn how to unlock the shackles which bind our own minds to the false authority usurped by the Blendeds at LSM. For me personally, this happened while I was reading John Ingalls' account Speaking the Truth in Love back in 2005.

How ironic is it that every stage of the so-called "Recovery" also required the same unshackling of mental authoritarian strongholds gripping the genuine seekers of God Himself? Firstly, read the Gospel of John carefully and one can readily ascertain the false authority imprisoning those who met the Savior Himself. Those folks lived in morbid fear of what the Jewish leaders would do to the followers of Jesus. Jesus told them that He was the Door, the door out of their prison, the door into green pastures. Following Him always leads us into freedom of heart.

Consider the inner torment and struggles of the reformer Martin Luther. On a miniature scale, some of our own journeys matched his. Luther had access to the word of God, and began to see thru the lies and falsehoods of Roman traditions. Still mentally entangled to Papal authority, as a priest he made a pilgrimage to Rome, the "holy" city. There he saw the filth of corruption, prostitution, lawlessness, and he was thoroughly shaken within. God used that trip to free Luther. Likewise, many of us needed to read about the corruptions in the Lee family -- deception, immorality, abuses, filthy lucre, and more -- in order for us to be freed within from the bondage of authoritarian schemes and strongholds controlling us and imprisoning our minds to their system of error.

The sad tragedy of recent Recovery history is that every expulsion of false authority -- whether Darby, Nee, or Lee -- eventually became a far worse authoritarian scheme than the one they rejected. This is why Recovery leaders are so keen on rewriting history, otherwise the membership might learn and reject what has happened in their midst. There was real liberty back in the days of Elden Hall, but today those liberties are gone. Of course, some do learn, and speak their conscience on behalf of the children of God, but those that do must be slandered and branded as rebellious, leprous, ambitious, divisive, "man of death," etc.

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Each of us must learn how to unlock the shackles which bind our own minds to the false authority usurped by the Blendeds at LSM.

What is really interesting with many of the current events in the LC is that a lot of these statements being made by Ron and others are fairly straight-forward as to what is being said. For example, the statement that Ron made about his wife is not something that normal people would interpret to be anything different than what he said.

So when shepherdingwords.com puts a spin on it, they're not really fooling anyone, even those in the LC. What it really boils down to is that the blendeds are doing/speaking a lot of questionable things, and I would think that people in the LC are at least somewhat aware of that. For people in the LC, it's mainly a matter of how such actions get rationalized. I think people in the LC are willing to ignore the obvious if they feel there is enough rationalization for what is happening.

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Freedom

What is really interesting with many of the current events in the LC is that a lot of these statements being made by Ron and others are fairly straight-forward as to what is being said. For example, the statement that Ron made about his wife is not something that normal people would interpret to be anything different than what he said.

So when shepherdingwords.com puts a spin on it, they're not really fooling anyone, even those in the LC. What it really boils down to is that the blendeds are doing/speaking a lot of questionable things, and I would think that people in the LC are at least somewhat aware of that. For people in the LC, it's mainly a matter of how such actions get rationalized. I think people in the LC are willing to ignore the obvious if they feel there is enough rationalization for what is happening.

Issue I had was Ron's speaking regarding sisters in general. I have listened to a number of messages Ron gave in the Puget Sound region. Had it been his wife or a young sister it is all the same very demeaning. Having heard these messages over a number of years I'm drawn to one question; what happened in Ron's life he's holding against women?

[JJ]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Each of us must learn how to unlock the shackles which bind our own minds to the false authority usurped by the Blendeds at LSM. For me personally, this happened while I was reading John Ingalls' account Speaking the Truth in Love back in 2005.

It’s not just recent Recovery history. It goes back to Luther. His early history is marvelous, but his end and that of his most ardent “Lutheran” followers was horrible, including deplorable filth-filled lambasting of some of his Christian brothers and of the Jews. The last were used by the Nazis (in spite of Luther’s early ministry to the contrary.

The lesson? Don’t build Christ’s Eklesia on the so called “pillars”, build it on Christ, the cornerstone, and his apostles who laid the foundation in the first place.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by JJ

It’s not just recent Recovery history. It goes back to Luther. His early history is marvelous, but his end and that of his most ardent “Lutheran” followers was horrible, including deplorable filth-filled lambasting of some of his Christian brothers and of the Jews. The last were used by the Nazis (in spite of Luther’s early ministry to the contrary.

The lesson? Don’t build Christ’s Eklesia on the so called “pillars”, build it on Christ, the cornerstone, and his apostles who laid the foundation in the first place.

Amen to this! Luther went off course at times, speaking anti-semitic epithets actually used centuries later by Hitler's propaganda apparatus. Luther refused to work with other reformers like Zwingli and Calvin over the superstitions surrounding the Eucharist. (Now doesn't that sound like Darby, Nee, and Lee?) I'm not taking anything away from Martin Luther, but elevating him to the status of the "First MOTA of the Recovery" is purely self-serving revisionist church history.

And let me take this a step further. As I was de-toxing from my decades in the Recovery, I came to the conclusion that without second source corroboration, all church history I had ever learned inside the LC's had to be discarded. All of it was twisted and skewed to serve a false narrative. To use today's vernacular, it was all "fake news."

Take this quote by Goebbells, the NAZI propagandist, and substitute the "Recovery" for the "State:"

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Does this not explain recent Blended actions, messages, and websites?

[JJ]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Amen to this! Luther went off course at times, speaking anti-semitic epithets actually used centuries later by Hitler's propaganda apparatus. Luther refused to work with other reformers like Zwingli and Calvin over the superstitions surrounding the Eucharist. (Now doesn't that sound like Darby, Nee, and Lee?) I'm not taking anything away from Martin Luther, but elevating him to the status of the "First MOTA of the Recovery" is purely self-serving revisionist church history.

And let me take this a step further. As I was de-toxing from my decades in the Recovery, I came to the conclusion that without second source corroboration, all church history I had ever learned inside the LC's had to be discarded. All of it was twisted and skewed to serve a false narrative. To use today's vernacular, it was all "fake news."

Take this quote by Goebbells, the NAZI propagandist, and substitute the "Recovery" for the "State:"
Does this not explain recent Blended actions, messages, and websites?

OH my. Yes!