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[OBW]

Just completed my "Congressional District Survey" which ended with a request for monetary support for the RNC. They need to read my responses. Pro-Republican but not supporting Trump.

I hate political polling because the questions and the false dichotomy of answers available do not paint a correct picture of my positions. In any case, it is clear that they will not listen because I will not be including a donation with it.

[OBW]

On a different note, I have lately been pricked a little concerning my thoughts toward Trump and the chaos that follows in his wake. That does not mean I think my considerations of his positions and even person are not justified. But I have been holding an unhealthy animosity toward him that should not be.

This is my confession of sins "one to another" on the subject. I have resolved let the Spirit lead me away from that.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

On a different note, I have lately been pricked a little concerning my thoughts toward Trump and the chaos that follows in his wake. That does not mean I think my considerations of his positions and even person are not justified. But I have been holding an unhealthy animosity toward him that should not be.

This is my confession of sins "one to another" on the subject. I have resolved let the Spirit lead me away from that.

Let's talk about "the chaos that follows in his wake." The facts overwhelming confirm that the "wake" surrounding Trump has been manufactured by the media propagation machinery of the Democratic Party for the last 4 years.

Don't look at the wake as a whole because it is composed of tens of thousands of unsubstantiated accusations. Rather examine each accusation individually, and dismiss it. Remember "Putin's Puppet?" Extermination of Muslims? Starting the next nuclear war? Etc.

Remember that Trump denied collusion with the Russians thousands of times, meanwhile the Democratic "fact-checkers" tallied them into the thousands. When Mueller confirmed Trump was accurate, they kept counting how Trump denied these new accusations. Unending.

The Democratic Media is presenting a false narrative: Trump chaos or peace. The real choice is socialism or freedom. Lawlessness or rule of law.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Let's talk about "the chaos that follows in his wake." The facts overwhelming confirm that the "wake" surrounding Trump has been manufactured by the media propagation machinery of the Democratic Party for the last 4 years.

Don't look at the wake as a whole because it is composed of tens of thousands of unsubstantiated accusations. Rather examine each accusation individually, and dismiss it. Remember "Putin's Puppet?" Extermination of Muslims? Starting the next nuclear war? Etc.

Remember that Trump denied collusion with the Russians thousands of times, meanwhile the Democratic "fact-checkers" tallied them into the thousands. When Mueller confirmed Trump was accurate, they kept counting how Trump denied these new accusations. Unending.

The Democratic Media is presenting a false narrative: Trump chaos or peace. The real choice is socialism or freedom. Lawlessness or rule of law.

We need to consider that the spin on the news is a two-sided problem.

I can read his tweets and see his press conferences, then hear CNN and Fox discuss it. And surely both have a spin. But while I like the conservative side of things, I see less spin in CNN than in Fox. There have been times that the things that Fox says are so out of touch with reality that I regret ever thinking that they were reasonable as a primary source for news. They are little more than Rush Limbaugh (and the others) 24/7. CNN actually takes the "left" to task for a lot of their errors. Fox just piles on in increasing the errors of the "right."

I worry about whether there will be a Republican party when this is all over. And maybe that is a good thing. Maybe something less extreme can emerge.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

We need to consider that the spin on the news is a two-sided problem.

I can read his tweets and see his press conferences, then hear CNN and Fox discuss it. And surely both have a spin. But while I like the conservative side of things, I see less spin in CNN than in Fox. There have been times that the things that Fox says are so out of touch with reality that I regret ever thinking that they were reasonable as a primary source for news. They are little more than Rush Limbaugh (and the others) 24/7. CNN actually takes the "left" to task for a lot of their errors. Fox just piles on in increasing the errors of the "right."

I worry about whether there will be a Republican party when this is all over. And maybe that is a good thing. Maybe something less extreme can emerge.

Fox News is all over the Map.

Some are Trump haters -- Shep Smith, Wallace, Brazell, Juan Williams, etc.

Some are Trump neutral -- Brett Bair, Carlson, MacCallum, etc.

Some are Trump supporters -- Hannity, Ingraham, Perrino, Hilton, etc.

But shortly Rupert Murdock will pass into the after life, and your heart can be cleansed of listening to all Trump support.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Fox News is all over the Map.

Some are Trump haters -- Shep Smith, Wallace, Brazell, Juan Williams, etc.

Some are Trump neutral -- Brett Bair, Carlson, MacCallum, etc.

Some are Trump supporters -- Hannity, Ingraham, Perrino, Hilton, etc.

But shortly Rupert Murdock will pass into the after life, and your heart can be cleansed of listening to all Trump support.

Many years ago (early 2000s) I began to get disenchanted with the pundits that otherwise spoke the things I "believed" in. They became more and more mean-spirited. Nastier and nastier. I stopped watching Fox News back around the time Colmes left. Not because I liked Colmes. I always thought they needed a more forceful liberal to make the discussions better. It was more like Hannity and milque toast. And Hannity was just as mean as the radio people I had quit listening to.

I have this problem. I like conservative positions, but I can't stand the people who speak up for them. It embarrasses me to be thought of in the same sentence as that kind of person.

No matter now much you might dislike CNN, I have found that some (not all) of the evening line-up is as even-handed as anyone could hope for. Sure they are liberal. But they don't hide that fact. And they are willing to call-out their own people for stupid statements, bad responses, etc. I just never could say that about Fox. And there really is no one else except wannabes.

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by OBW

Many years ago (early 2000s) I began to get disenchanted with the pundits that otherwise spoke the things I "believed" in. They became more and more mean-spirited. Nastier and nastier. I stopped watching Fox News back around the time Colmes left. Not because I liked Colmes. I always thought they needed a more forceful liberal to make the discussions better. It was more like Hannity and milque toast. And Hannity was just as mean as the radio people I had quit listening to.

I have this problem. I like conservative positions, but I can't stand the people who speak up for them. It embarrasses me to be thought of in the same sentence as that kind of person.

No matter now much you might dislike CNN, I have found that some (not all) of the evening line-up is as even-handed as anyone could hope for. Sure they are liberal. But they don't hide that fact. And they are willing to call-out their own people for stupid statements, bad responses, etc. I just never could say that about Fox. And there really is no one else except wannabes.

This is much how I am! Sure, I'm conservative/libertarian, but more than that I am a son of the living God. So the mean-spirited divisiveness, to me, is just a worldly, fleshly thing that is quickly passing away (and not too soon).

[Sons to Glory!]

Originally Posted by OBW

On a different note, I have lately been pricked a little concerning my thoughts toward Trump and the chaos that follows in his wake. That does not mean I think my considerations of his positions and even person are not justified. But I have been holding an unhealthy animosity toward him that should not be.

This is my confession of sins "one to another" on the subject. I have resolved let the Spirit lead me away from that.

Amen bro. I had that sort of thing going on in me during the Clinton and Obama administrations and after Obama was elected the 2nd time, many of us could just not believe it and I went into something of a tailspin. This showed me that I was putting my trust in man! And then there was some sharing that I got light from, concerning praying for our presidents. My darkness was exposed and I changed my thinking. They are all just fallen men, and need our prayers. My unhealthy addiction to keeping an overly close eye on all things political was also exposed. These days I focus much, much less on such things, and pray for the whole mess more.

I also remember a brother then, who was so anti-Obama and very vocal about it, and he couldn't hardly accept that he should pray for him in any way (other than Obama should fail). It became very apparent that this was something not of the Lord in him (and the rest of us).

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

I also remember a brother then, who was so anti-Obama and very vocal about it, and he couldn't hardly accept that he should pray for him in any way (other than Obama should fail). It became very apparent that this was something not of the Lord in him (and the rest of us).

Never hope for any president to fail. Maybe fail at accomplishing certain goals, but not fail overall. For them to fail is for America to fail. I hope they all succeed at being the best president they can.

Even Trump. Unfortunately, I see him working very hard at failure.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

Never hope for any president to fail. Maybe fail at accomplishing certain goals, but not fail overall. For them to fail is for America to fail. I hope they all succeed at being the best president they can.

Even Trump. Unfortunately, I see him working very hard at failure.

How about some example?

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

How about some example?

Not going to bother. I like you too much to get into a detailed political debate with you. The truth is that politics, from both sides, is full of problems. And full of hope and promise. Neither side is God's. And neither side is simply a disease. You and I both like the right, though we disagree on Trump, and I am probably not as far right as some might like me to be.

Let's leave it at that.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

Amen bro. I had that sort of thing going on in me during the Clinton and Obama administrations and after Obama was elected the 2nd time, many of us could just not believe it and I went into something of a tailspin. This showed me that I was putting my trust in man! And then there was some sharing that I got light from, concerning praying for our presidents. My darkness was exposed and I changed my thinking. They are all just fallen men, and need our prayers. My unhealthy addiction to keeping an overly close eye on all things political was also exposed. These days I focus much, much less on such things, and pray for the whole mess more.

Great words of wisdom. Thanks.