Answered Prayer

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

It is no nice to be able to speak with people in a normal way without all the pretense. On the other hand it is nice to remember the Lord is watching whenever you speak.

I had assumed at first that your forum name was Chinese, perhaps one of your children's names or a place where you lived.

What is the significance of an Egyptian name for Jesus?

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I had assumed at first that your forum name was Chinese, perhaps one of your children's names or a place where you lived.

What is the significance of an Egyptian name for Jesus?

I wrote a book "Glory to the Coming King". The publisher wanted to know what name I wanted to use for the author. Since the book quoted many scriptures I felt it was appropriate to give the Lord's name as the author. So I wanted "an Egyptian" name so the world wouldn't get turned off.

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I wrote a book "Glory to the Coming King". The publisher wanted to know what name I wanted to use for the author. Since the book quoted many scriptures I felt it was appropriate to give the Lord's name as the author. So I wanted "an Egyptian" name so the world wouldn't get turned off.

Mr ZNP, how is Z.N.Paaneah the Lord's name? It was a name given to Joseph, just because it's possible to extrapolate Joseph as a type of Christ does that mean them two are not unique and special in their own ways? Z.N.P. cannot be a name for Christ because Jesus hadn't even appeared yet at the time the name was given.

The Bible says somewhere that we will be given our real names by God himself one day around the time of the resurrection, I feel that ZNP knows ZNpaaneah is his real God given name but he doesn't want to accept what it means that his purpose is also to be, like the Joseph of old, the "deliverer/savior" of his people, so he made up an excuse about the name having to do with Jesus not himself. just an opinion from a seriously deranged mind.... =]

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I had assumed at first that your forum name was Chinese, perhaps one of your children's names or a place where you lived.

Names of my children?

My oldest son is named Gurion, it is hebrew for Lion cub. I named him after David Ben-Gurion, the architect of the modern Jewish state. Now the Chinese could never pronounce his name, so they called him “Glorion”. Which he hated. So if he ever gets too full of himself and you need him to get his feet back on the ground a quiet “glorion” will usually snap him out of it. His middle name is Seal (this is from my “doctrinal” period). I tied this into the tabernacle (sealskin), the Spirit, (sealing of the spirit), etc.

My daughter is Poiema (It is from Ephesians, the Greek word for Poem). But I just call her Potato. Her middle name is based on a story I didn’t want anyone to forget. Her mother went to a chinese fortune teller who told her she was going to have a son. I was stunned that a “Christian” would do such a thing and knew that God would not honor this. I initially was going to call her “See a son” with a mocking tone. However, that is of course Reuben and I didn’t want to name my daughter after him. So, after a little prayer I changed it to “See The Son” or SeeSon. I capitalized the s in Son, so it is an homage to the “double S spirit” for anyone that remembers that.

And my youngest is Zion (a little nod to my Geology background). Now he has both the best and the worst middle name at the same time. My wife was really impressed with what I had shared with her about the precious stones in the New Jerusalem. She wanted to name her son after one of the precious stones. I was unable to dissuade her so now if anyone asks I just tell them his middle name is “spitfire”. But he will have to learn to keep this to himself because if anyone ever finds out what his middle name really is he’ll never be able to live it down.

You may think the middle names are really lousy names, that was intentional. I always told my kids I only had one request of them, that is that they don’t treat me the way I treated my father. (Needless to say I don’t want my kids changing their names to their middle names. -- you had to have been there)

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Names of my children?...

As one who has had to live many years with what I consider an awfully stupid middle name, and though I do appreciate your using names to tell a story, yet I do feel a little compassion for the shame it may bring them. I get lots of mail with my middle name spelled out, so I often am forced to explain where that "stupid" name came from.

Unfortunately none of us names himself. So I decided to name my own children with names that would never embarrass them.

But that's just me.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

As one who has had to live many years with what I consider an awfully stupid middle name, and though I do appreciate your using names to tell a story, yet I do feel a little compassion for the shame it may bring them. I get lots of mail with my middle name spelled out, so I often am forced to explain where that "stupid" name came from.

Unfortunately none of us names himself. So I decided to name my own children with names that would never embarrass them.

But that's just me.

My kids just use the initial S, but to my knowledge none of them are "embarrassed". They like their names. I can't speak for the youngest, but then I did all that I could to talk his mother out of that.

[Scribe]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Names of my children?...

Greetings ZNPaaneah

Surely in the redemption in Christ, names are holy stones of the temple of the Name. As the names are measured into place between the headstone Jesus and the cornerstone Jesus, they open their holiness to the wearer and those that abide with them. You have a rich heritage of names.

Scribe

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Scribe

Greetings ZNPaaneah

Surely in the redemption in Christ, names are holy stones of the temple of the Name. As the names are measured into place between the headstone Jesus and the cornerstone Jesus, they open their holiness to the wearer and those that abide with them. You have a rich heritage of names.

Scribe

Thanks. It took me about a week after Ohio first posted that response before I realized that those names were a testimony. In my experience a lot of prayer went into the names and when you had the name you knew that was the Lord. I expect that other saints have a similar testimony, so I do consider the names of their children. Some have talked about how WL ministry disparaged Jews, and yet that never even occurred to me when I named my son, a good 10 years after first coming into the LC. The middle names all share aspects of the indwelling spirit. But apart from one word with two capital letters I don't see any influence from WL, on the contrary the Apostle Paul is clearly the biggest influence. So not everyone in the LC was parroting WL. You can look at the names and see what we were reading -- what stories meant the most to us. I wrote letters to each of my kids talking to them about their names, these became a kind of blessing similar to Jacob blessing his kids.

Also it takes a lot of trust to open up about your family. I feel that we have to do this to understand each other better, and in that way we lay the foundation for reconciliation.

[Scribe]

ZNPaaneah
You touch many things in this brief paragraph:
1) Names
2) Witness Lee
3) Jews
4) The apostle Paul
5) Looking at names to see what we “were” reading
6) You wrote letters to each of your kids about their names- blessing them as Jacob blessed his kids.
7) Opening up about family to have way of reconciliation.
We see in Ephesians that all names come from the Father above. He has named all families in heaven and earth. So there is no accident to our names. Seeing this there is also no accident to Witness Lee’s name. According to his name he bore witness to what Watchman saw. That is the essential thing.
At this point you bring in the Jews. It is written of Israel that the nations will see that they are called by the Name of Jehovah and will fear them. Jehovah will arise in Israel and they will abide in Him so that the nations may come to know Him. Witness could see Israel’s destiny but the time to redeem Israel had not yet come. He spoke of both their history and its instruction and their future, but he did not have a present hands-on experience with the work of resurrecting Israel because the time was not yet. Such were we all.
That brings us to Paul who you accredit with influence in naming your children. Unless the Lord had sent Paul to us all would be exclusively Jewish. But as Israel was put to sleep, Paul was the rib taken out for a heavenly bride to be built upon. In the fruit of this ministry Israel shall arise and shall then shepherd the nations. The church is now the glorious open covenant heaven to Israel. Israel will then be a living book read by the nations, even as the church is such a book to Israel as we take their names into glorious redemption. Reading names.
Then at point 6 you felt as Jacob blessing his kids as you wrote about their names. In such writing the Word is God. He is near, at hand and you are changing as you write. You become Israel leaning upon the staff of God as you write. In such writing the Word is unspeakable gift that all true blessers lean upon. In such writing you become a true saint (John 17:17-20).
At point seven – reconciliation. To reconcile our family we must reconcile the family of the Jews. They are the sheep the Lord has sent to you. In this ministry the local churches become golden lampstands shining upon holy ground under their feet. Then their table becomes a holy door of return from the ends of the earth. Los Angeles becomes golden lampstand, New York becomes golden lampstand. Zurich becomes golden lampstand. So does Athens and Alexandria. All shining forth the priestly way for Israel to return to the Promise Land.
Scribe

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Scribe

ZNPaaneah
You touch many things in this brief paragraph:

Well, you have certainly read a lot into these testimonies. At this stage of my life I am more interested in seeing people that I know get reconciled than I am about human history being resolved.

[Scribe]

Ok, thanks for clarifying that.