Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, & the Lord's Recovery

Cal · 04-03-2019, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio

From a small child I was indoctrinated with this evil, called the "infallibility of the Pope." It was never questioned. Endless modifications of this same theme have been used to deceive God's children for centuries.

It all comes down to: Does your leader seem like your servant, or like your lord? If he seems like your lord, he is not a biblical leader.

Jo S · 05-07-2019, 10:01 AM

Thesis on the "House Church Movement".

Jo S · 07-22-2019, 10:12 PM

The Lord's Recovery movement's main inertia comes from Dominionism or Kingdom Now theology.

This is a heretical and non scriptural teaching turns Christ's 2nd coming into a works based effort where taking every city for God and establishing a Local Church in each one is a requirement before he returns. Kingdom Now theology exalts man and makes God dependent on man and his faith in order for God to accomplish His will. God’s rule is diminished and His sovereignty is attacked.

People that adhere to this theology view themselves as the end-time army for God with the command to take dominion over three areas; 1) societal, 2) economic, and 3) religious spheres. The Local Churches fall into the third category.

Here's a website explaining Kingdom Now theology which is also a popular belief among charismatic faiths;

https://www.gotquestions.org/kingdom-now.html

aron · 07-23-2019, 05:24 PM

The connection between Watchman Nee, the Latter Rain and New Apostolic Reformation is probably stronger than most realize.

Here is a link to a website that points out the connection.

https://coveringandauthority.com/?fb...aRBmORYX8A_3Mk

Jo S · 07-23-2019, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by countmeworthy

EXCELLENT insight and info!!! Thanks!

You're welcome!

countmeworthy · 07-23-2019, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by aron

The connection between Watchman Nee, the Latter Rain and New Apostolic Reformation is probably stronger than most realize.

Here is a link to a website that points out the connection.

https://coveringandauthority.com/?fb...aRBmORYX8A_3Mk

Who would have thought. It is so important for us to seek the TRUTH, to study the Word with the help of God the Holy Spirit so we are not tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine.. especially false doctrine and false teachings.

Thanks Aron!

countmeworthy · 07-23-2019, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo S

The Lord's Recovery movement's main inertia comes from Dominionism or Kingdom Now theology.

This is a heretical and non scriptural teaching turns Christ's 2nd coming into a works based effort where taking every city for God and establishing a Local Church in each one is a requirement before he returns. Kingdom Now theology exalts man and makes God dependent on man and his faith in order for God to accomplish His will. God’s rule is diminished and His sovereignty is attacked.

People that adhere to this theology view themselves as the end-time army for God with the command to take dominion over three areas; 1) societal, 2) economic, and 3) religious spheres. The Local Churches fall into the third category.

Here's a website explaining Kingdom Now theology which is also a popular belief among charismatic faiths;

https://www.gotquestions.org/kingdom-now.html

EXCELLENT insight and info!!! Thanks!

countmeworthy · 07-23-2019, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Igzy

It all comes down to: Does your leader seem like your servant, or like your lord? If he seems like your lord, he is not a biblical leader.

WOW!! you guys are on a roll with outstanding observations! muchas gracias for sharing your findings.

Jo S · 07-23-2019, 09:24 PM

Another thing to look out for in those that adhere to the spirit of the New Apostolic Reformation is an inclination toward, or even an obsession with, the Song of Songs.

Brian Simmons, a main leader of the NAR movement, (who authored the official NAR bible translation; "The Passion Translation") also based his very first book on the Song of Songs.

The NAR minded believer's faith is typically centered around the "subjective Christ" and the pursuit of spiritual passion and ecstasy, as in focusing on the "joy of the Lord" (which is really just induced states of consciousness) so they're naturally drawn to the Song of Songs as it's poetry that primarily celebrates human sexuality and passion.

While doing research I discovered a book written by GLA Local Church "apostle" and "prophet", Titus Chu, coincidentally carrying an identical title to that of Brian Simmons book; "Song of Songs, A Divine Romance".

https://ministrymessages.org/song-of-songs-dr/

I don't know if that's where the coincidence ends but nevertheless it was interesting to discover...

05-07-2019, 10:01 AM	#2
Jo S Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ohio Posts: 488	Re: Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, & the Lord's Recovery Thesis on the "House Church Movement".

07-22-2019, 10:12 PM	#3
Jo S Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ohio Posts: 488	Re: Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, & the Lord's Recovery The Lord's Recovery movement's main inertia comes from Dominionism or Kingdom Now theology. This is a heretical and non scriptural teaching turns Christ's 2nd coming into a works based effort where taking every city for God and establishing a Local Church in each one is a requirement before he returns. Kingdom Now theology exalts man and makes God dependent on man and his faith in order for God to accomplish His will. God’s rule is diminished and His sovereignty is attacked. People that adhere to this theology view themselves as the end-time army for God with the command to take dominion over three areas; 1) societal, 2) economic, and 3) religious spheres. The Local Churches fall into the third category. Here's a website explaining Kingdom Now theology which is also a popular belief among charismatic faiths; https://www.gotquestions.org/kingdom-now.html

07-23-2019, 05:24 PM	#4
aron Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Natal Transvaal Posts: 5,632	Re: Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, & the Lord's Recovery The connection between Watchman Nee, the Latter Rain and New Apostolic Reformation is probably stronger than most realize. Here is a link to a website that points out the connection. https://coveringandauthority.com/?fb...aRBmORYX8A_3Mk __________________ "Freedom is free. It's slavery that's so horribly expensive" - Colonel Templeton, ret., of the 12th Scottish Highlanders, the 'Black Fusiliers'

07-23-2019, 09:24 PM	#9
Jo S Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Ohio Posts: 488	Re: Latter Rain, Kingdom Now, & the Lord's Recovery Another thing to look out for in those that adhere to the spirit of the New Apostolic Reformation is an inclination toward, or even an obsession with, the Song of Songs. Brian Simmons, a main leader of the NAR movement, (who authored the official NAR bible translation; "The Passion Translation") also based his very first book on the Song of Songs. The NAR minded believer's faith is typically centered around the "subjective Christ" and the pursuit of spiritual passion and ecstasy, as in focusing on the "joy of the Lord" (which is really just induced states of consciousness) so they're naturally drawn to the Song of Songs as it's poetry that primarily celebrates human sexuality and passion. While doing research I discovered a book written by GLA Local Church "apostle" and "prophet", Titus Chu, coincidentally carrying an identical title to that of Brian Simmons book; "Song of Songs, A Divine Romance". https://ministrymessages.org/song-of-songs-dr/ I don't know if that's where the coincidence ends but nevertheless it was interesting to discover...