Francis Chan: "God Might Kill You If You Criticize Church Leaders"

Cal · 03-27-2019, 06:24 AM

We are going through a series on the Ten Commandments at my church. Last week was on honoring father and mother, which our pastor expanded to honoring those in authority. I agree. I don't feel free to trash the President anymore, liberal or conservative. If I'm under someone's authority, be it a mayor, police officer or pastor, I should honor them. If I cannot, then I need to vote with my feet and find someplace else to live, or meet.

Witness Lee does not have authority over me. Neither does Francis Chan. If I choose to meet with Francis Chan's church, then I should honor his authority. But if I don't, he's just another brother to me, and one that may be in error.

This is the danger of considering some people to be modern-day apostles. What is the scope of authority of such "apostles?" For Witness Lee it was global. Universal really, because it seems to reach beyond the grave. And this is what the damage of the LR is rooted in, this feeling that you cannot get out from under their "authority."

I for one cannot see the logic, wisdom or biblical basis of being expected to give a person credit for having such authority. I believe once the first generation of real Apostles were replaced by Scripture, the kind of authority they had passed from the earth. How would you know if someone is an "apostle" now anyway? And what happens when there is disagreement between apostles? It just turns into a death match which in the end no can really win, but just leaves a trail of damage and confusion. That's the history of the LR.

03-27-2019, 06:24 AM	#15
Cal Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Posts: 4,333	Re: Francis Chan: "God Might Kill You If You Criticize Church Leaders" We are going through a series on the Ten Commandments at my church. Last week was on honoring father and mother, which our pastor expanded to honoring those in authority. I agree. I don't feel free to trash the President anymore, liberal or conservative. If I'm under someone's authority, be it a mayor, police officer or pastor, I should honor them. If I cannot, then I need to vote with my feet and find someplace else to live, or meet. Witness Lee does not have authority over me. Neither does Francis Chan. If I choose to meet with Francis Chan's church, then I should honor his authority. But if I don't, he's just another brother to me, and one that may be in error. This is the danger of considering some people to be modern-day apostles. What is the scope of authority of such "apostles?" For Witness Lee it was global. Universal really, because it seems to reach beyond the grave. And this is what the damage of the LR is rooted in, this feeling that you cannot get out from under their "authority." I for one cannot see the logic, wisdom or biblical basis of being expected to give a person credit for having such authority. I believe once the first generation of real Apostles were replaced by Scripture, the kind of authority they had passed from the earth. How would you know if someone is an "apostle" now anyway? And what happens when there is disagreement between apostles? It just turns into a death match which in the end no can really win, but just leaves a trail of damage and confusion. That's the history of the LR.