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Old 03-19-2019, 06:18 AM   #1
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Equal rights for all? Why is it that Palestine provides no jobs for Israelis, yet Israel provides so many jobs to them?

Why is it that Palestine allows Hamas to use their homes to shoot rockets at Israel?

Why is it that the only jobs in Palestine are digging tunnels to attack Israel?

You sure have a crooked sense of justice. The Torah never commanded them to invite their enemies to rape their wives and kill their children. The Palestinians who act like real neighbors, get treated very well by Israel. Unfortunately, their own people kill them for acting like neighbors.

Awareness, you are a victim of Palestinian propaganda. So sad. It would be better for you to remain neutral towards Israel, than to side with Palestine.
Yeah, love your neighbor. Trap them in in Gaza, and pluck them off at will, even killing children. That's the way to treat them neighborly.

That's not propaganda. And by the way, you prove my point. Say something for the Palestinians and you are against Israel. I don't know, but, you must be a Christian Zionist.

And I'm for both the Palestinians and Israel. There's wrong on both sides, but who has the overwhelming power? and who is the underdog?
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Old 03-19-2019, 07:20 AM   #2
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Yeah, love your neighbor. Trap them in in Gaza, and pluck them off at will, even killing children. That's the way to treat them neighborly.

That's not propaganda. And by the way, you prove my point. Say something for the Palestinians and you are against Israel. I don't know, but, you must be a Christian Zionist.

And I'm for both the Palestinians and Israel. There's wrong on both sides, but who has the overwhelming power? and who is the underdog?
It's Israel who is trapped behind walls. Walls they had to build to keep murdering animals out. But the walls have doors for good people.

The Palestinians are connected to 2 Billion Muslims who hate Israel, and who have vowed to exterminate them all. The U.N. is filled with Muslam countries, and is very anti-Israel. So I would say that Muslams have all the power. Israel is just a spec on the map surrounded by a sea of enemies.

Palestine belongs to Israel because they had it for thousands of years. The Gaza Muslams are occupying their land just as Istanbul Muslams are occupying Constantinople in Asia Minor, the long-time center of Orthodox Christianity. Today Muslams are illegally occupying all the Bible lands once owned by Christians. They stole the lands and murdered its occupants. Case in point was the Turkish genocide of Armenia, the first Christian country.

The real truth is that Muslams have long been eliminating Jews and Christians all over the Mideast, Africa, and Asia. They are a slaughtering people, forcing their captives to convert or be killed. These murders regularly occur in Egypt, Pakistan, Syria, Nigeria, Indonesia, etc. Nearly every Muslam country murders Jews and Christians. Their only hope is to trust in God.

I would suggest you read a little world history before you make naive comments on this forum. Skip the propaganda sections in the MSM.
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Old 03-19-2019, 09:01 AM   #3
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It's Israel who is trapped behind walls. Walls they had to build to keep murdering animals out. But the walls have doors for good people.

The Palestinians are connected to 2 Billion Muslims who hate Israel, and who have vowed to exterminate them all. The U.N. is filled with Muslam countries, and is very anti-Israel. So I would say that Muslams have all the power. Israel is just a spec on the map surrounded by a sea of enemies.
Then I guess you are happy that we have made Israel one of the most powerful nations in the world, even letting them have nukes.

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Palestine belongs to Israel because they had it for thousands of years.
No, before the British Mandate the Palestinians were there for 900 years. More than once I've showed the maps of Israel taking more and more land since 1948. As I stated, they follow their Torah to claim the land, but ignore the Torah when it says love God and your neighbor.

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The Gaza Muslams are occupying their land just as Istanbul Muslams are occupying Constantinople in Asia Minor, the long-time center of Orthodox Christianity. Today Muslams are illegally occupying all the Bible lands once owned by Christians. They stole the lands and murdered its occupants. Case in point was the Turkish genocide of Armenia, the first Christian country.
There's not one bad side and one good side. Both sides have both. If all 1.2 billion Muslims were bad we, and Israel, would be in big trouble. Not all Muslims are bad, and not all Jews are good ... and neither are all Christians, so called.
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Then I guess you are happy that we have made Israel one of the most powerful nations in the world, even letting them have nukes.
Happy? False conclusion. As usual.

I long for the day coming soon when all nukes will be gone, eliminated by the King of kings.
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The Palestinian Muslams stole the land of Israel by slaughtering her original inhabitants. They even build their Mosques on the ruins of her Temple.

Sorry bro, but you never seem to mention all the good that Israel does for the Palestinians. You ought to read those stories too. But you won't find these stories in your British rags, like Daily Mail.

Since you don't like the way Jacksonian Democrats drove Native Indians from their lands, you should be doubly upset with what these Muslams did to the original inhabitants of Judea and Jerusalem.
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There's not one bad side and one good side. Both sides have both. If all 1.2 billion Muslims were bad we, and Israel, would be in big trouble. Not all Muslims are bad, and not all Jews are good ... and neither are all Christians, so called.
If I break into your house and attack you, and you then beat me up, are we now both bad?

Ever hear of something called the right of self-defense?
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Yeah, love your neighbor. Trap them in in Gaza, and pluck them off at will, even killing children. That's the way to treat them neighborly.

That's not propaganda. And by the way, you prove my point. Say something for the Palestinians and you are against Israel. I don't know, but, you must be a Christian Zionist.

And I'm for both the Palestinians and Israel. There's wrong on both sides, but who has the overwhelming power? and who is the underdog?
In 1948 the Palestinians could have made a wonderful peace treaty in which they completely shared Israel as equals. Instead they chose to fight. It seemed at the time that Israel would not have a chance. All the way to 1967 the Palestinians seemed to have an overwhelming position, Israel surrounded by enemies more powerful than them. The Palestinians should have chosen to be reconciled, but they chose violence.

Today Israel is in the overwhelming position, this is the best opportunity for them to have a negotiated reconciliation, but instead they have taken the same route as the Palestinians. To be fully fair to the Israelis they could point out that if they did negotiate peace there would still be terrorists who were not happy with the outcome. But the Palestinians were in that same boat in 1948.
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In 1948 the Palestinians could have made a wonderful peace treaty in which they completely shared Israel as equals. Instead they chose to fight. It seemed at the time that Israel would not have a chance. All the way to 1967 the Palestinians seemed to have an overwhelming position, Israel surrounded by enemies more powerful than them. The Palestinians should have chosen to be reconciled, but they chose violence.

Today Israel is in the overwhelming position, this is the best opportunity for them to have a negotiated reconciliation, but instead they have taken the same route as the Palestinians. To be fully fair to the Israelis they could point out that if they did negotiate peace there would still be terrorists who were not happy with the outcome. But the Palestinians were in that same boat in 1948.
Had they "shared their country" as you suggest, they would now have rocket launchers on the balconies in Tel Aviv.

If there is one lesson that Israel has learned during her long history, it's that there can be no negotiations with terrorists. The PLO was a terrorist organization only to be replaced by Hamas, something far worse. Where is the condemnation on Iran for being the worst state sponsor of terror? Today Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, and the West Bank are not run by Palestinians, but by the Ayatollah of Iran.
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Had they "shared their country" as you suggest, they would now have rocket launchers on the balconies in Tel Aviv.

If there is one lesson that Israel has learned during her long history, it's that there can be no negotiations with terrorists. The PLO was a terrorist organization only to be replaced by Hamas, something far worse. Where is the condemnation on Iran for being the worst state sponsor of terror? Today Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, and the West Bank are not run by Palestinians, but by the Ayatollah of Iran.
The PLO does not represent all Palestinians and did not exist in 1948. It was founded in 1964. The use of terrorism didn't begin until it was clear they were not going to overpower Israel.

When the Jews were given Israel by the UN there was no mention of kicking out the inhabitants or making them non citizens. Allowing everyone to continue living there as citizens was an option, it could have happened and had they known the way of peace they might have avoided 70+ years of war, terrorism, and bloodshed. However, the choice for war was first made by the Palestinians who did not want to share the land with the Jews.
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The PLO does not represent all Palestinians and did not exist in 1948. It was founded in 1964. The use of terrorism didn't begin until it was clear they were not going to overpower Israel.

When the Jews were given Israel by the UN there was no mention of kicking out the inhabitants or making them non citizens. Allowing everyone to continue living there as citizens was an option, it could have happened and had they known the way of peace they might have avoided 70+ years of war, terrorism, and bloodshed. However, the choice for war was first made by the Palestinians who did not want to share the land with the Jews.
Exactly. Proving that Israel was never given the opportunity for peace. Their only chance for peace was to all die, as they did in Poland at Nazi furnaces.

Terrorism existed in Israel long before Yes Sir Arafat came along with the PLO. There have been insiders working with foreign powers since the days of the first Zionist Kibbutzim early in the 20th century.

Go read the whole story please.

And Israel has every right to build their new temple on the site of the original temple.
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Exactly. Proving that Israel was never given the opportunity for peace. Their only chance for peace was to all die, as they did in Poland at Nazi furnaces.

Terrorism existed in Israel long before Yes Sir Arafat came along with the PLO. There have been insiders working with foreign powers since the days of the first Zionist Kibbutzim early in the 20th century.

Go read the whole story please.

And Israel has every right to build their new temple on the site of the original temple.
You are obviously confusing me with someone else.

However, I disagree with the idea that they were "never given an opportunity for peace". Peacemakers are likened to "sons of God". It is a very difficult thing to do, just ask Nelson Mandela. They have an opportunity today for peace.
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The Siena College poll of registered voters in New York state found that 67 percent of those surveyed said the internet retailer's decision last month was detrimental to New York.

AOC does not speak for New Yorkers. Let this marinate for another year and let's see if anyone votes for her again.
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You are obviously confusing me with someone else.

However, I disagree with the idea that they were "never given an opportunity for peace". Peacemakers are likened to "sons of God". It is a very difficult thing to do, just ask Nelson Mandela. They have an opportunity today for peace.
Perhaps you are mistaken to believe that all such "peace" is of God?

The peacemakers in Matt 5 are likened to "sons of God," that is true. This message is to the church, to us as brothers of our heavenly Father.

But His message to Israel in not the same, especially with those sworn to destroy them. Israel abides by the Law and the Prophets. We abide by the Gospels and the Epistles.
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