Leaders of the Lord's Recovery

[Indiana]

www.lordsrecovery.us/ConsequentialHistory.pdf

My statement in 2013

It was only after many attempts to obtain fellowship with the blending co-workers in the Lord’s recovery that I felt to make things public. My motivation is for an accurate, unbiased reporting of the late eighties turmoil and a proper representation of men and events related to that tumultuous time in the local churches. I also want to show the obvious parallel of the serious concerns that the brothers had then and that the brothers have today. Both sets of brothers have received similar treatment in response to similar concerns, and have experienced similar outcomes – rejections; public condemnations; and quarantines.

The LSM and the blending co-workers have a history of driving a wedge of division in the recovery to meet their goals and carry out their agenda at the expense of the oneness of the Body of Christ in "the local churches".

In short, history has been repeated and nothing has been learned. And, we still deviate from the path of receiving people according to the Son of God alone.
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Witness Lee February 1997

“All responsible brothers in all localities need to learn. The eyes of the brothers and sisters all need to be opened. Too many things we need to learn. I admit that in the past we have all made mistakes, including myself. For this I repented before the Lord in tears.

"In the past we were wrong…We [in the local churches] have to receive people according to the Son of God, not deviating a bit from the path.”

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[Indiana]

Originally Posted by Indiana

www.lordsrecovery.us/ConsequentialHistory.pdf

My statement in 2013

It was only after many attempts to obtain fellowship with the blending co-workers in the Lord’s recovery that I felt to make things public. My motivation is for an accurate, unbiased reporting of the late eighties turmoil and a proper representation of men and events related to that tumultuous time in the local churches. I also want to show the obvious parallel of the serious concerns that the brothers had then and that the brothers have today. Both sets of brothers have received similar treatment in response to similar concerns, and have experienced similar outcomes – rejections; public condemnations; and quarantines.

The LSM and the blending co-workers have a history of driving a wedge of division in the recovery to meet their goals and carry out their agenda at the expense of the oneness of the Body of Christ in "the local churches".

In short, history has been repeated and nothing has been learned. And, we still deviate from the path of receiving people according to the Son of God alone.
---------------------
Witness Lee February 1997

“All responsible brothers in all localities need to learn. The eyes of the brothers and sisters all need to be opened. Too many things we need to learn. I admit that in the past we have all made mistakes, including myself. For this I repented before the Lord in tears.

"In the past we were wrong…We [in the local churches] have to receive people according to the Son of God, not deviating a bit from the path.”

Recent LSM Speaking

“Here I need to point out a real heavy concern I have. And this supported again by the word of Brother Lee’s ministry. So many saints stop here with the conscience. And how they end up is not being God-men, just being good people caring for right and wrong according to the conscience, dealing with the conscience.

"John Ingalls could tell us, he told us openly in his last meeting in Anaheim, when he was resigning and also attacking Brother Lee in 18 or 19 ways. He said, ‘I’m at peace with myself, I’m at peace with God, I’m at peace with all of you.’

“But he was obsessed. That’s a false peace, I remember him giving a message with a certain kind of gesture, “I was deeealling [deep voice] with my conscience. Dealing, straining gnats. He was straining gnats to swallow a camel.” RK Dec 2018

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Indiana

Recent LSM Speaking:

“Here I need to point out a real heavy concern I have. And this supported again by the word of Brother Lee’s ministry. So many saints stop here with the conscience. And how they end up is not being God-men, just being good people caring for right and wrong according to the conscience, dealing with the conscience.

"John Ingalls could tell us, he told us openly in his last meeting in Anaheim, when he was resigning and also attacking Brother Lee in 18 or 19 ways. He said, ‘I’m at peace with myself, I’m at peace with God, I’m at peace with all of you.’

“But he was obsessed. That’s a false peace, I remember him giving a message with a certain kind of gesture, “I was deeealling [deep voice] with my conscience. Dealing, straining gnats. He was straining gnats to swallow a camel.” -- RK Dec 2018

The Apostle Paul was censured and publicly punched in the mouth by the guards of the High Priest for exercising a good conscience before God. (Acts 23.1-3, 24.16) Today from LSM's podium, Ron Kangas is now behaving just like the Jewish leaders by condemning the late John Ingalls in the same way as they did to Apostle Paul.

Make no mistake about it. Today's Blendeds are exactly the same in life and in nature as the Judaizers in the New Testament.

Can you believe that Ron Kangas is actually denigrating a good conscience as supposedly a hindrance to becoming something called a "god-man?" How low can LSM go?

[Indiana]

Originally Posted by Igzy

Logic asks, What is the fail-safe of such a belief system? Can you just excuse anything your movement does and say you were acting as "God-men?" Seriously?

Kangas is scary crazy.

This is one more example why this movement is dangerous and needs to be exposed, and why this board is here.

"Hate what is evil; hold tightly to what is good!" Romans 12:9

"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea." Mark 9:42

"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees!" Isaiah 10:1

“Woe to you, blind guides!" Matthew 23:16

I agree with Igzy's previous post. The folly in Ron's thinking and speaking IS scary and his condition and status more than questionable. His audacity should not go unchallenged.

[Indiana]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Can you believe that Ron Kangas is actually denigrating a good conscience as supposedly a hindrance to becoming something called a "god-man?" How low can LSM go?

Ron, in your comments, you dare to speak about John Ingalls as you did - mocking and derogatory, as it appears to me. I am stunned by you. You expose yourself, not John Ingalls.

And there is more to come.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Indiana

“Here I need to point out a real heavy concern I have. And this supported again by the word of Brother Lee’s ministry. So many saints stop here with the conscience. And how they end up is not being God-men, just being good people caring for right and wrong according to the conscience, dealing with the conscience.

Ron Kangas is the one who is obsessed.

In the first place, who believes that John Ingalls "just" cared for right and wrong? Of course, John cared for God. That's exactly WHY he was dealing with his conscience, instead of just scoffing at it like Kangas apparently does!

Earth to LR people. Right is not contrary to God. It meshes perfectly with God. Your problem is you want to use God as an excuse for your evil. So you condemn right, because you know you are wrong. Who do you think you are fooling besides yourselves and the choir?

Logic asks, What is the fail-safe of such a belief system? Can you just excuse anything your movement does and say you were acting as "God-men?" Seriously?

Kangas is scary crazy.

This is one more example why this movement is dangerous and needs to be exposed, and why this board is here.

"Hate what is evil; hold tightly to what is good!" Romans 12:9

"If anyone causes one of these little ones--those who believe in me--to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea." Mark 9:42

"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees!" Isaiah 10:1

“Woe to you, blind guides!" Matthew 23:16

[Indiana]

Please delete. Sorry Admin!

[Cal]

Okay, this might be a little out there for some. But I hope it is received in the good humor it is intended. These are classic scenes from Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2, with parody subtitles added.

You have to laugh at these guys, you just have to.

Rocket Raccoon Takes Down Ron Kangas

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1m4...6Zmtj3mCRKTF3u

[Indiana]

http://www.blendedbody.com/_cl/_audi...he2ndStage.mp3

[Cal]

The irony of that is the only thing that can save these guys and the ones they are misleading is an encounter with their conscience.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Indiana

http://www.blendedbody.com/_cl/_audi...he2ndStage.mp3

For Kangas to attack John Ingalls at this point proves that John's account Speaking the Truth In Love, and his 16 Points are still available on line and effective.