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Old 01-02-2019, 05:24 PM   #1
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But that is not what we are talking about and the objections about "one publication" are not about that.

Though anyone can teach, preach, and publish the divine truths that have been released through all the servants you mentioned and others that God has raised up in recent years those same people cannot demand that their teachings and writings be published by the ministry that bears responsibility for publishing them!

In other words, if the publisher (LSM in this case) does not want to publish anyone's teaching then they are not obligated to. Neither can anyone claim to be a successor of the brother or brothers through whom the Lord spoke and released certain truths. Anyone can teach, preach, post, blog, and publish all they like about divine truths the Lord has released through others or spoken to them directly. Yet no one is obligated to accept, much less publish, those messages. And yet again, if a publisher, also in this case LSM, chooses to ONLY publish the messages, writings, of a certain minister(s) then they not only have the right to limit their mission but have an obligation before the Lord as well.
Once again Drake either does not know what LSM's quarantines were all about or he disingenuously misstates them.

Regarding the quarantines of Titus Chu of Cleveland and Dong Yu Lan of Brazil, the following are true:
  1. Neither TC nor DYL ever required LSM to publish their writings. Both of these ministers published their own books. Contrary to Drake's comment above, LSM demanded that no minister be allowed to minister, to write, or to publish without their consent.
  2. Neither TC nor DYL ever demanded anyone to accept or to buy their books. Contrary to Drake's comment above, it is LSM which demands that all ministers, elders, and members in the LC's buy their books, teach their books, and teach only their books.
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Old 01-03-2019, 02:00 AM   #2
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But Piper would never call himself as the Minister of the Age. He would not demand his followers @Desiring God Facebook page to read only his books.
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Old 01-03-2019, 06:49 AM   #3
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But Piper would never call himself as the Minister of the Age. He would not demand his followers @Desiring God Facebook page to read only his books.
That is irrelevant.... point is he would not remain silent nor accept it if someone claimed to be his successor of any sort..... and no one demands that we only read Witness Lee's books... that is a farce.

This was the point: Some here like John Piper.... but if anyone here went to the publisher and the producer of John Piper's work and said they were a successor to John Piper and his ministry, or that their messages should be published because they are part of the ministry of John Piper, or demand that John Piper recognize them and also publish their work then Mr. Piper and those responsible for his ministry, publications, etc. would have a good chuckle.... rightfully.

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Old 01-03-2019, 07:54 AM   #4
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This is a bogus straw man argument that has nothing to do with the actual historical actions of LSM's Blendeds who instituted their One Publication Policy to silence Titus Chu and bring him under subjection to LSM.

Ironically, using Drake's wild example about John Piper, the only case I know of usurping the so-called "mantle" of the former head of a Christian Publisher is Hank Hannegraff. Read the story of how he took over Walter Martin's Christian Research Institute and then milked it dry for his own personal gains.
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Old 01-06-2019, 11:10 AM   #5
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That is irrelevant.... point is he would not remain silent nor accept it if someone claimed to be his successor of any sort..... and no one demands that we only read Witness Lee's books... that is a farce.
I had an interesting experience with this in the church in Houston many years ago. I was buying a book in the book room by Watchman Nee and the brother behind the counter recommended that I would be better served with a book by Witness Lee. I told him I had tried one and hadn't gotten anything from it.

That was a big mistake and I was so new in the LC I had no idea I had said something wrong. The ramifications included being called into a meeting with the elders of the church in Houston and being told I had 2 strikes against me and was on the verge of being excommunicated. This was right after the whole Max episode and several other saints from Houston had already been excommunicated.

But on the other hand you are right, no one "openly" demanded that I only read WL books. It was up to me to figure out what the "two strikes" were that they were talking about.

Likewise we were strongly encouraged to use footnotes and WL quotes from his books in our testimonies. No one "demanded" this but "strongly encouraged" is an accurate and fair description.
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