Climate Change

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Originally Posted by zeek

Sure we need to adapt, but a defeatus attitude that makes no sense.

This is not a defeatist attitude. This is simply plotting a strategy based on the best information available.

Originally Posted by zeek

Trump is rolling back vehicle emission standards and the Clean Power Plan. He started the process of withdrawing the US from the Paris Agreement. He appointed a former coal lobbyist to lead the EPA. He Opened up federal land and waters to drilling. And that’s just the start.

Yes, that is just the start. You can expect when push comes to shove (as it will over the next 3 years) that many other countries will follow that lead. Look at what happens in France when they try to increase tax on gasoline (a key tactic for eliminating carbon)

Originally Posted by zeek

Trump thinks he can pull a fast one on Americans – as well as our brothers and sisters all over the world – with destructive policies that harm our planet while propping up Big Polluter profits.

Now that is funny. The fast one has already been pulled, and it was pulled during Carter's administration. It was pulled during Bush's administration, and it was pulled again during baby Bush's administration. It was pulled when Clinton was elected and we thought that having Gore on the ticket would actually make a difference.

Originally Posted by zeek

But we the people need to oppose policies that threaten the future safety and security of our planet. The world’s leading scientists agree: Climate change is happening. It’s creating a global health crisis. We must slash emissions by 2030 and to keep global warming below 1.5º C to avert a truly dangerous future.

You are like all those people motivated to stand against Trump's campaign and make sure he wasn't elected, only problem is they rallied a week after the election.

Originally Posted by zeek

Carbon pollution from fossil fuels poisons our air, water, and soil, threatening our health in incalculable ways. If we don’t take action now, droughts and storms will become more dangerous, infectious diseases will spread farther and faster, safe drinking water and nutritious food may become even more scarce, and poverty and displacement could threaten millions around the world.

They will get worse regardless of whether or not you take action. Weather and climate is elastic. We have already kicked off feedback loops like the thawing of the permafrost releasing methane, a very powerful greenhouse gas, the destruction of the rainforests, the melting of the arctic. Even if you instantly converted the world's economy to a carbon neutral economy the situation would continue to get worse for the next 20 years.

Now you and Ocasio are not even suggesting that in their wildest dream, they are talking about destroying the US economy without having any impact on the world's. Imagine if we shoot our car industry, they'll simply move to Mexico. The US workers are now out of work and the US buys cars from Mexico. It is absurd to even suggest her plan will have any impact on China, Russia, India, or the third world. Hence, it is idiotic.

Originally Posted by zeek

The good news is that we have the solutions to this crisis. Wind. Solar. Energy efficient buildings. Smart land use. Low-carbon transit. We need to change the system radically before we destroy ourselves by destroying the environment we live in. If you won't get on board get out of the way.

Finally, someone referring to Armageddon as good news. Yes, we will have massive catastrophes wiping out a third of the world's ecosystem, creating massive shortages which in turn result in wars and a dramatic drop in human population. In that way the Earth will cleanse itself of the problem. After that under the leadership of the Lord Jesus we will have the restoration of all things, a period of 1,000 years where we clean up this mess.