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[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Then why don't you start by believing God and His word?

...asked a servant of Donald Trump.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

...asked a servant of Donald Trump.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I know. I don't like it either. But, Ohio has been carrying water for Trump, who is Mammon Incarnate, on this very thread for years now and presumably without even getting paid for it!

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

I know. I don't like it either. But, Ohio has been carrying water for Trump, who is Mammon Incarnate, on this very thread for years now and presumably without even getting paid for it!

But zeek's idols, those other wealthy $Billionaires who financed Socialist Democrats all across the nation, including his own boy Gillam, they are not "Mammon Incarnate."

That God for zeek's altruistic leftist gods, like Steyer, Oprah, Soros, Bloomberg, etc.

Like I said many times, I would rather have a successful and patriotic business man "buy" the Presidency, than a jobless community organizer "sell" the Presidency to foreign powers. Tell me again how Obama can make $400K for 8 years and leave a Billionaire.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

But zeek's idols, those other wealthy $Billionaires who financed Socialist Democrats all across the nation, including his own boy Gillam, they are not "Mammon Incarnate."

That God for zeek's altruistic leftist gods, like Steyer, Oprah, Soros, Bloomberg, etc.

Like I said many times, I would rather have a successful and patriotic business man "buy" the Presidency, than a jobless community organizer "sell" the Presidency to foreign powers. Tell me again how Obama can make $400K for 8 years and leave a Billionaire.

Suffice it to say that whereas by parroting Fox News, Breitbart and other extremist sources Mr. Ohio has with few exceptions defended Trump for years on this very thread you will be hard pressed to find me defending the immoral behavior of any of the people he claims are my "gods".

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

Suffice it to say that whereas by parroting Fox News, Breitbart and other extremist sources Mr. Ohio has with few exceptions defended Trump for years on this very thread you will be hard pressed to find me defending the immoral behavior of any of the people he claims are my "gods".

I do prefer accurate sources. Sources that own up to error, and those that value journalistic integrity. If they are conservative and labled "extremist" then so be it.

It's so easy for you to stand up for nothing, and attack everyone and everything else, including those who try to do good. But, as they say, those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.

I do take a lot of heat on alt-views for standing up for the integrity of the word of God and for conservative leaders. I find it humorous watching leftist media outlets today using G.H.W. Bush's character and leadership integrity to again attack Trump. When Bush was alive, they hated him. They have repeated this pattern since Eisenhower. They hated "W" until Trump came along. One day they will extol Trump while trashing some future conservative President.

Some never will see thru the hypocrisy.

It should be troubling to all decent people today watching how leftist media sources constantly take positions contrary to Trump, just to smear him. Obama was once for a border wall, once for the defense of marriage, once for moving the US Embassy to Israel, once for granting DACA's a pathway to citizenship, etc. etc. and the Left constantly gave him a pass. But when Trump now acts on Obama's former platform, the Left goes apoplectic, as if Trump acted on some new policy.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

One day they will extol Trump while trashing some future conservative President.

If there comes a day when a president makes us look back and miss Trump, he'll be a dictator, like Putin ... and many others. And that president will not make America great again. Let's hope that's not the future of America.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Some never will see thru the hypocrisy.

It definitely discredits them in my eyes.

Originally Posted by Ohio

It should be troubling to all decent people today watching how leftist media sources constantly take positions contrary to Trump, just to smear him. Obama was once for a border wall, once for the defense of marriage, once for moving the US Embassy to Israel, once for granting DACA's a pathway to citizenship, etc. etc. and the Left constantly gave him a pass. But when Trump now acts on Obama's former platform, the Left goes apoplectic, as if Trump acted on some new policy.

It is troubling to me that some of these outlets feel obligated to hate all things Trump. They lose credibility.

For example, Herbert Hoover was one of the most respected businessmen when elected president, yet our opinion of him as president was terrible to mediocre at best. On the other hand FDR may be vilified for his policies but most everyone has to agree he was one of the top ten presidents in US history, perhaps even top 5. He navigated the US through both the Depression and WWII and had a very neat handoff to a very capable successor. FDR was a much more skilled politician than Hoover, though in many other respects not as successful.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I do prefer accurate sources. Sources that own up to error, and those that value journalistic integrity. If they are conservative and labled "extremist" then so be it.

It's so easy for you to stand up for nothing, and attack everyone and everything else, including those who try to do good. But, as they say, those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.

I do take a lot of heat on alt-views for standing up for the integrity of the word of God and for conservative leaders. I find it humorous watching leftist media outlets today using G.H.W. Bush's character and leadership integrity to again attack Trump. When Bush was alive, they hated him. They have repeated this pattern since Eisenhower. They hated "W" until Trump came along. One day they will extol Trump while trashing some future conservative President.

Some never will see thru the hypocrisy.

It should be troubling to all decent people today watching how leftist media sources constantly take positions contrary to Trump, just to smear him. Obama was once for a border wall, once for the defense of marriage, once for moving the US Embassy to Israel, once for granting DACA's a pathway to citizenship, etc. etc. and the Left constantly gave him a pass. But when Trump now acts on Obama's former platform, the Left goes apoplectic, as if Trump acted on some new policy.

I can understand your turn to right wing media due to your childhood disappointment with liberal democracy. The question is whether you have just turned to sources that tell you what you want to hear or whether you are pursuing objective facts and thinking critically about what you learn from all sources. If people don't recognize that Trump is pursuing the policies of Obama perhaps they would be helped if Trump ever gave Obama an ounce of credit for anything instead of blame for everything. But of course the pendulum swing that characterizes the two party bipolar disordered partisanship in this country didn't start with Trump. He just exacerbated it.

[zeek]

duplicate post--but a damn good one.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by zeek

I know. I don't like it either. But, Ohio has been carrying water for Trump, who is Mammon Incarnate, on this very thread for years now and presumably without even getting paid for it!

I am completely unconvinced. With Bush's recent death I am reminded of his "kinder gentler" campaign at the very same time he is putting a knife in the back of Noriega, bombing Panama, a dirt poor country, reneging on Carter's agreement to give the Panama canal to Panama, and then setting up Saddam Hussein so we could blow them to bits as well.

Which is worse a mealy mouthed "kinder gentler" thousand points of light bearer -- who is a deceitful backstabber who gets us into a trillion dollar boondoggle killing all kinds of inner city kids (not him, not his kids).

When I compare Trump's known sins to Bush he does not seem nearly so evil.

You were the one quoting verses from Matthew:

"27 For as the lightning goes forth from the east and shines to the west, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
28 [For] wherever the carcase is, there will be gathered the eagles."

CNN sends the image of the Gulf War to us at the speed of light. It began a new age of news zipping around the world at the speed of light 24 hours a day.

Saddam was the carcase in the wilderness. The US and the air force assembled against him by Bush were the eagles (vultures).

All governments on this earth are either a dead carcase or a vulture. Complaining that the president is a "vulture" is simply becoming aware of the reality.

This prophecy demonstrates how much improvement the scientific, industrial and technological revolutions would make over 2,000 years and also how corrupt governments would still be after 2,000 years. The only solution to corrupt leaders is the Lord Jesus.

[zeek]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I am completely unconvinced. With Bush's recent death I am reminded of his "kinder gentler" campaign at the very same time he is putting a knife in the back of Noriega, bombing Panama, a dirt poor country, reneging on Carter's agreement to give the Panama canal to Panama, and then setting up Saddam Hussein so we could blow them to bits as well.

Which is worse a mealy mouthed "kinder gentler" thousand points of light bearer -- who is a deceitful backstabber who gets us into a trillion dollar boondoggle killing all kinds of inner city kids (not him, not his kids).

When I compare Trump's known sins to Bush he does not seem nearly so evil.

You were the one quoting verses from Matthew:

"27 For as the lightning goes forth from the east and shines to the west, so shall be the coming of the Son of man.
28 [For] wherever the carcase is, there will be gathered the eagles."

CNN sends the image of the Gulf War to us at the speed of light. It began a new age of news zipping around the world at the speed of light 24 hours a day.

Saddam was the carcase in the wilderness. The US and the air force assembled against him by Bush were the eagles (vultures).

All governments on this earth are either a dead carcase or a vulture. Complaining that the president is a "vulture" is simply becoming aware of the reality.

This prophecy demonstrates how much improvement the scientific, industrial and technological revolutions would make over 2,000 years and also how corrupt governments would still be after 2,000 years. The only solution to corrupt leaders is the Lord Jesus.

You're certainly entitled to your political opinion AND your poetic interpretation.