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Originally Posted by Ohio

Are you kidding, or has TDS just gripped your sanity?

The presumption of innocence applies to every area of life! What if I started making accusations about you on this forum? What if I walk into a church and accuse the pastor? What if I walk into the police station and accuse the police? Or listen to one child tattle/fib about another? Only the naivest of people would believe such accusations without corroborative proof. No, my friend, the presumption of innocence is the bedrock of a free world.

I heard that some are coming forward with allegations against Muller. It seems like special prosecutors are also appointed for life. Where do you draw your "bright line" here.

You don't know what you are talking about. The standard for a criminal trial is much higher than for a civil trial. This is why a policeman can be found "not guilty" of a crime and still lose a lawsuit for millions of dollars in civil court.

There are many pieces of evidence that can be excluded from a criminal trial, that is not true of a hearing.

What OBW said is true, the hearing is not about "the presumption of innocence" since this is not a criminal trial. No one has been accused of a crime, nor is the purpose to determine if someone is guilty of a crime. For example, with Kavanaugh no one was there to determine if he was guilty of sexual assault, the question before them was "is this a man we want as a Supreme court justice". There are many people who are "innocent" who I don't want as a Supreme court justice. Being "innocent" is not a qualification for the Supreme court (being guilty could be seen as a disqualification though).

Vote for Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court because he is presumed innocent of sexual assault!

Just doesn't work for me.