Outer Darkness?

[Drake]

Originally Posted by aron

Really? Then why 'one publication' edict?

It seems you don't like my line of questioning & so pretend not to 'get it' - rather you do get it & would prefer to change the subject post-haste.

I'm surprised you didn't try the "just pray about it" dodge, which LSM operatives usually fall back on when you begin to critically examine the contents of their theology. You know, the "you just need the vision" &c.

Sorry aron....

I didn't answer your question about Moses because I don't think it is relevant... though I like the thought-provoking angle to your question.... but if you present the point of view of learned and educated men on this topic I will pay attention to what they have to say. Maybe they are silent or maybe the light will shine.. and since I would be just repeating the point of view of an uneducated China-man then I'm certain it is of little or no worth to you anyway.

So, please.. enlighten us about Moses not entering the Good Land but showing up on Mount Hermon with Jesus... what do they say about that?

Drake

[aron]

The topic was on outer darkness. The question was asked, Where in the Bible does it show defeated believers going into punishment for 1,000 years? The LSM answer was, The whole Bible shows this.

So we began to use the whole Bible. Revelations doesn't say anything about the 1,000 years in outer darkness. Nor did the epistles. Nor did the gospels. Instead, we heard, it was a pastiche, put together by an amateur theologian.

Okay, so let's critically examine it. . . but instead of answers, we got, Who have you got who's done better?

But who has to speculate 'better'?

[Drake]

Originally Posted by aron

The topic was on outer darkness. The question was asked, Where in the Bible does it show defeated believers going into punishment for 1,000 years? The LSM answer was, The whole Bible shows this.

So we began to use the whole Bible. Revelations doesn't say anything about the 1,000 years in outer darkness. '

Aron,

There are several erroneous statements in your post. First, to my knowledge you were challenged by Drake and Evangelical ... not LSM.

Secondly, I never said “the whole Bible shows this”... I said the topic of outer darkness and the judgement, and the millennial reign of Christ is covered mainly in the parables related to the kingdom in Matthew a book that is kingdom centered, some of the relevant verses in the epistles concerning judgement of the believers and the book of Revelation. I said this to open the aperture of what a Brother Lee taught in its entirety vs, your selective and narrow scope of using only some verses in Revelation.

Which brings us to the third erroneous statement.....that “we began to use the whole Bible” which you did not and you insisted that since the book of Revelation is the only place that mentions “1000 years” then I must explain what Brother Lee taught only from that book and only using footnotes. A ridiculous notion in almost every way like the nice Muslim who insisted I must prove that Jesus is God only using the red letters.

Fourth, it is the book of Revelation, not “Revelations”. Singular, in that the entire book is the revelation of the Person Jesus Christ. You probably knew that so don’t let your spell check get the best of you there as it often does me.

But, let’s move on to what your scholars have to say about it.. that will be most interesting.

Thanks
Drake