Outer Darkness?

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by A little brother

Did Paul mention anything about outer darkness? How is this verse related?

I am not referrng to the use of light to reform. I was referring to God's presence.

The verse shows God's punishment for believers is temporary. So we can know that outer darkness as a punishment for believers, is temporary.

If we believe otherwise we cannot believe in eternal security. If the servant does not return from outer darkness, then eternal security is false. Now you could say that such a servant was not a true servant in the first place, but that is harder to prove than proving that outer darkness is temporary, because it would make God's Word a lie if the word servant does not actually mean a true servant.

[A little brother]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

The verse shows God's punishment for believers is temporary. So we can know that outer darkness as a punishment for believers, is temporary.

If we believe otherwise we cannot believe in eternal security. If the servant does not return from outer darkness, then eternal security is false. Now you could say that such a servant was not a true servant in the first place, but that is harder to prove than proving that outer darkness is temporary, because it would make God's Word a lie if the word servant does not actually mean a true servant.

I think your have misread the bible again because of your own preconception. Please check 1 Cor 3:13. The fire is a test, not punishment.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by A little brother

I think your have misread the bible again because of your own preconception. Please check 1 Cor 3:13. The fire is a test, not punishment.

You've missed the point too busy trying to sound smart.

Yes the fire is a test, but it then describes what happens to those who fail the test.

They "suffer loss" - that's a kind of punishment.

They are still saved - so the punishment is temporary.

[A little brother]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

You've missed the point too busy trying to sound smart.

Yes the fire is a test, but it then describes what happens to those who fail the test.

They "suffer loss" - that's a kind of punishment.

They are still saved - so the punishment is temporary.

What is the loss?

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by A little brother

What is the loss?

Loss of the works

[A little brother]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Loss of the works

Weren't the works already lost in the burn test?

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by A little brother

Weren't the works already lost in the burn test?

That's right, and the man himself was saved.