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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

Is fiscal conservatism dead? Republicans railed against the national debt level under the Obama administration, when it jumped from $10.6 trillion to $19.9 trillion, nearly doubling, but few have been as outspoken about the situation with Republicans controlling Capitol Hill and the White House.

About a year ago, President Trump pledged to eliminate the national debt "over a period of eight years." But for the first time in history, the national debt surpassed $21 trillion this week, according to the U.S. Treasury.

The landmark comes shortly after Congress passed, and Mr. Trump signed, a suspension on the federal debt limit last month, allowing the government to borrow an unlimited amount of money until March 1, 2019.

When Mr. Trump took office on Jan. 20, 2017, the national debt was $19.9 trillion, according to U.S. Treasury data. Since then, the GOP-led Congress has passed a $1.5 trillion tax cut bill and a two-year spending deal which, together, are expected to drive the deficit and debt further upward. The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates annual deficits could top $2.1 trillion per year in the next decade, which would send the national debt soaring even higher.

Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, held up the spending bill last month on the Senate floor, blistering Republicans for doing exactly what they had criticized the Obama administration for doing.

"I ran for office because I was critical of President Obama's trillion-dollar deficits," Paul said at the time. "Now we have Republicans hand-in-hand with Democrats offering us trillion-dollar deficits." Source: ABC News

The Republican Party is much more diverse and inclusive than the Democratic/Socialist Party of Schumer and Pelosi, as evidenced by fiscal policy you mentioned and immigration policy.

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Originally Posted by Ohio

The Republican Party is much more diverse . . .

And no longer the party of Reagan ... the republican party is now the party of Trump ... who has never held to republican values. Trump killed that republican party. R.I.P.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

And no longer the party of Reagan ... the republican party is now the party of Trump ... who has never held to republican values. Trump killed that republican party. R.I.P.

I thought Bush Dubya killed it, have you forgotten?

Did you miss that Michael Moore flick?

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Originally Posted by Ohio

I thought Bush Dubya killed it, have you forgotten?

Did you miss that Michael Moore flick?

Well you've got a point. But it depends on who you talk to. Arch conservatives certainly thought Dubya killed the republican party. My Alaskan friend, of Elden fame, Hosepipe (Manna Man's dad) certainly thought so. Maybe Trump is the coup de grâce.