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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

The burden of proof is on the Trump Administration to show that is the case. If it were so they would have said so in the beginning. Instead they said that separating the children from their parents was deterrent. It looks like you believed another lie.

If the entire mainstream media is promoting the same narrative, it is by definition a deceptive lie.

I told you that the original picture, which ignited the controversy, was from 2014 under the Obama admin. Obviously you don't care. The media acts like these policies just begun, but have been going on for years. Notice the timing -- the Democrats had to distract our attention from the Kim Summit and the IG Report.

Amazingly, even Laura Bush chimed in, that is, until Sarah Sanders WH SpokesPerson reminded her that Dubya signed this legislation in 2008. Duh!

But why let a few facts get in the way. Like a vast percentage of minors are NOT accompanied by their parents. Even the leftist Democrats on the Hill smell blood and began screaming at Trump as if they have one ounce of compassion or a single fact on their side.

zeek, I thought you were a smart guy. I am amazed how easily you get distracted with the crowds. Like lemmings running over the cliff after every new shiny object. Wide is the way that leads to destruction. If the whole world hates Trump, you might want to reconsider why.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

If the entire mainstream media is promoting the same narrative, it is by definition a deceptive lie.

I told you that the original picture, which ignited the controversy, was from 2014 under the Obama admin. Obviously you don't care. The media acts like these policies just begun, but have been going on for years. Notice the timing -- the Democrats had to distract our attention from the Kim Summit and the IG Report.

Amazingly, even Laura Bush chimed in, that is, until Sarah Sanders WH SpokesPerson reminded her that Dubya signed this legislation in 2008. Duh!

But why let a few facts get in the way. Like a vast percentage of minors are NOT accompanied by their parents. Even the leftist Democrats on the Hill smell blood and began screaming at Trump as if they have one ounce of compassion or a single fact on their side.

zeek, I thought you were a smart guy. I am amazed how easily you get distracted with the crowds. Like lemmings running over the cliff after every new shiny object. Wide is the way that leads to destruction. If the whole world hates Trump, you might want to reconsider why.

The bottom line is that we need legislation concerning immigration. It has to take into account the concerns for keeping the US safe, protecting out citizens, while also accounting for the wonderful benefits we get from immigrants as a boost to our economy. Finally, the current situation is not acceptable, we are a humane country and we do not want to imitate Nazi Germany.

There is an easy solution -- refuge city. Let those coming and claiming asylum go to a "refuge city" on the border where they can live and work until their case is adjudicated.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

The bottom line is that we need legislation concerning immigration. It has to take into account the concerns for keeping the US safe, protecting out citizens, while also accounting for the wonderful benefits we get from immigrants as a boost to our economy. Finally, the current situation is not acceptable, we are a humane country and we do not want to imitate Nazi Germany.

There is an easy solution -- refuge city. Let those coming and claiming asylum go to a "refuge city" on the border where they can live and work until their case is adjudicated.

There's not one thing happening on the border that could be connected to the Hitler Natzis. That whole manufactured narrative is a deceptive lie. And you guys know it! This whole drama is just one more charade in a long series going back to the Primaries in 2015.

Every country has right to protect its borders. Every incarcerated felon is separated from his or her children. Most of these children are NOT accompanied by parents. All of these illegal immigrants should have gone to Ports of Entry. The children in these centers are well cared for. They are far safer than inner city schools, esp. Chicago.

Name me one child that has been gassed and incinerated on the border like the Jews in the holocaust.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

There's not one thing happening on the border that could be connected to the Hitler Natzis. That whole manufactured narrative is a deceptive lie. And you guys know it! This whole drama is just one more charade in a long series going back to the Primaries in 2015.

Every country has right to protect its borders. Every incarcerated felon is separated from his or her children. Most of these children are NOT accompanied by parents. All of these illegal immigrants should have gone to Ports of Entry. The children in these centers are well cared for. They are far safer than inner city schools, esp. Chicago.

These are not incarcerated felons. These are people who are applying for asylum and a judge has not yet had a chance to hear their case. Yes, many are lying and will be refused, but there are those who are truly seeking asylum. We do not need to treat them as felons. Like I said, there should be a refuge city where they are allowed to enter but not leave until their case is heard. This would save us the money of housing, feeding, and caring for them. If you are truly seeking asylum this would be merciful, if you are trying to scam the system and jump the line then you would be fingerprinted, deported, and the next time you try this you would immediately pop up in the system.

Originally Posted by Ohio

Name me one child that has been gassed and incinerated on the border like the Jews in the holocaust.

Prior to gassing them, the "final" solution, they were segregated into Ghetto's (Jewish side of the city), forced to wear stars, etc. When we talk about Nazi Germany it doesn't simply refer to gas chambers, it refers to ghettos, demonizing one small segment of society, blaming the Jews for all the ills in the country, running on a campaign to deal with the Jews, and a whole new way of enforcing the law including summary executions on the street without a trial.

The Nazi's were never elected to power on a platform of "gas chambers" that was done more subtly. They were elected with the promise to "deal with the problem of the Jews" much like Trump has made immigration and illegal aliens the cornerstone of his campaign. In fact the "make America great again" was lifted straight from Nazi campaign rhetoric. Another cornerstone was the claim that the peace treaty from WWI was not just, similar to Trump's contention that our trade agreements are not just.

It was not illogical to vote for Hitler, many were concerned about communism from Russia and Hitler was successful at branding communism as a Jewish doctrine. The peace treaty was unjust and Germans were right to fight it.

However, today the overwhelming majority of Germans are ashamed of Hitler, not because of what he promised (they are not communist and they have much better treaties today) but because they trusted him to accomplish what he promised even though he was clearly incompetent and they were willing to turn a blind eye because they liked his speeches.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

However, today the overwhelming majority of Germans are ashamed of Hitler, not because of what he promised (they are not communist and they have much better treaties today) but because they trusted him to accomplish what he promised even though he was clearly incompetent and they were willing to turn a blind eye because they liked his speeches.

Wow, does that sounds like Obama, the community organizer, the "Great Orator."

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Wow, does that sounds like Obama, the community organizer, the "Great Orator."

If you are going to liken Obama to Hitler you have no ground to complain when others liken Trump to Hitler.

So far the only thing I have done is liken children held in cages, crying for their mothers similar to what the Nazis did in Germany when they began to separate out the Jews from the rest of the country.

[ZNPaaneah]

I think everyone is really overlooking the very big reveal. One Fox news anchor likened what she saw to summer camp! What kind of summer camp did she go to? Why is no one asking about this? Did her parents drop her off at the local penitentiary during the summer? If you abuse kids like that, telling them prison is summer camp, does that explain them later becoming Fox news hosts?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

If you are going to liken Obama to Hitler you have no ground to complain when others liken Trump to Hitler.

So far the only thing I have done is liken children held in cages, crying for their mothers similar to what the Nazis did in Germany when they began to separate out the Jews from the rest of the country.

Obama gave us the kids in cages, and you said nothing.

At this point I'd rather have a President who is hated. Hated without a cause.

Obama, however, was an idol.



Isn't this just how the AntiChrist will arrive on the scene? He will be likened to a god, loved by all. The media will fawn all over him, "and they worshiped the beast, saying who is like the beast." (Rev 13.4)

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Wow, does that sounds like Obama, the community organizer, the "Great Orator."

Yeah, when are we gonna impeach Obama?

[ZNPaaneah]

I just finished an extensive course on the Civil War. It struck me at the end that if the South had been able to accurately and precisely calculate the cost of the war they wouldn't have seceded. It seems to me we have the technology to simulate war, and we could use the mathematical skill, formulas and precision of actuaries. Imagine if at some time in the future we simply calculate the cost before going to war. I think if we did that it would be a lot easier to mediate conflicts to avoid war.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Yeah, when are we gonna impeach Obama?

When we gonna indict him for orchestrating a coup?