LSM/Blended Brothers Take Over of Mansfield

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Drake

First, the attempted takeover of Mansfield in the fall of 2006 by Titus Chu through his proxies, the 4 elders he appointed,

Here we need to take note of LSM's blatant hypocrisy as posted by Drake.

LSM (Nee, Lee, Wee Blendeds) has long taught that only the elders appointed by the apostles in every city are legitimate. They use Titus 1.5 and Acts 14.23 to support their teachings. Then they constantly affirm that the "condition" of the LC is unimportant as long as its standing and name are proper. LSM (se Nee's TNCCL) also teaches that the elders are the "highest court" and no outside ministry has any right to interfere.

Here we are discussing the church in Mansfield with elders appointed by a recognized apostle TC. The church is split into parties, one of Lee, and one of Titus, and one of Christ. The elders alone must administrate and shepherd these saints into one accord. It is their decision alone whether outside any ministers should be invited to help them.

But read Drake's posts. He belittles and disqualifies these 4 local elders as "TC proxies." This proves that in the minds of an LSMer, no elder on earth is legitimate unless he is subservient to them. Once again LSM has violated their own teachings. Hypocrites.

Then LSM interferes and incites some locals and former members to become rebellious against these elders because they are not recognized by LSM and thus illegitimate. LSM constantly condemns outsiders who interfere, unless it's them. Hypocrites.

They claim that Mansfield is their "fruit," raised up by W. Nee because 50 years ago a sister read TNCCL. Lee furthered the claim saying Mansfield was his fruit because they bought his books. The Blendeds, as if claiming their spiritual "inheritance" upon Lee's death, stake further claim to this church as their "fruit," though no Blended had ever even driven thru the town of Mansfield. Total hypocrisy!

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Here we are discussing the church in Mansfield with elders appointed by a recognized apostle TC.

Don't be silly. You no more recognize TC as an apostle then you did anyone else in the Lords' recovery.

Still, if he is recognized as an apostle by you then why aren't you part of his ministry?

Fact is, you only use TC as a club to bludgeon other christians.. those you refer to as Pharisees, know it all Levites and now dogs.

Drake

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Sons to Glory!

And let me add that things go sideways when authority outside of an ekklesia is subjected upon it (other than Christ)

Good point.

An elder running around the meeting hall in Mansfield shouting “I am the authority! I’m the elder! I have the authority!” ...

.. is probably not the authority.

Drake

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Drake

An elder running around the meeting hall in Mansfield shouting “I am the authority! I’m the elder! I have the authority!” ...

.. is probably not the authority.

And that goes for Lee ... and Nee before him ... and even Titus.

Just who do they think they are, or were? -> Self Claimers ... and that's all.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Drake

Good point.

An elder running around the meeting hall in Mansfield shouting “I am the authority! I’m the elder! I have the authority!” ...

.. is probably not the authority.

Drake

Extremely doubtful, prolly fake news coming out of Anaheim.

Was it the same brother who was seen in Anaheim screaming in the streets, "I am a baby god, I am a god-man, I am a baby god!!!"

Hi Drake, hate to break the news to you. Probably he is not god either.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Extremely doubtful, prolly fake news coming out of Anaheim.

Was it the same brother who was seen in Anaheim screaming in the streets, "I am a baby god, I am a god-man, I am a baby god!!!"

Hi Drake, hate to break the news to you. Probably he is not god either.

Sadly, it is not fake news. Sometimes I wish it were, like when Titus’ coworker gets in a brothers face during a Mansfield meeting goading the brother to “punch him”. “Come on, punch me! You know you want to!.”

Nutty.

Drake

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Drake

Sadly, it is not fake news. Sometimes I wish it were, like when Titus’ coworker gets in a brothers face during a Mansfield meeting goading the brother to “punch him”. “Come on, punch me! You know you want to!.”

Nutty.

I'll say nutty. A meeting in the c. in Ft. Lauderdale almost broke out in fist-a-cuffs, with fists doubled up, and ready to fly.

Why? Over loyalty to Witness Lee. After that meeting about 40 brothers broke with the c. in Ft. Lauderdale, moved north to Boca Raton, Fl, declared the ground, and declared total loyalty to Witness Lee. That was back in the 1980s. Did the Lord bless that move? No. There's still only around 40 members there, dying out by attrition.

Really nutty indeed. The Lord does not, and is not, blessing Lee. It's all men driven, and human aggrandized. Loyalty to him is foolishness.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

I'll say nutty. A meeting in the c. in Ft. Lauderdale almost broke out in fist-a-cuffs, with fists doubled up, and ready to fly.

Why? Over loyalty to Witness Lee. After that meeting about 40 brothers broke with the c. in Ft. Lauderdale, moved north to Boca Raton, Fl, declared the ground, and declared total loyalty to Witness Lee. That was back in the 1980s. Did the Lord bless that move? No. There's still only around 40 members there, dying out by attrition.

Really nutty indeed. The Lord does not, and is not, blessing Lee. It's all men driven, and human aggrandized. Loyalty to him is foolishness.

So awareness you saw first hand how LSM could provoke certain ambitious nut jobs to misconstrue the scriptural admonition to "fight the good fight" of the faith.

LSM thrives on this kind of fleshly zealotry. During the "new way" of the late 80's there were hundreds of stories like yours. Until one understands how Lee and LSM really operate, he/she will always be deceived by their abundance of teachings.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

So awareness you saw first hand how LSM could provoke certain ambitious nut jobs to misconstrue the scriptural admonition to "fight the good fight" of the faith.

LSM thrives on this kind of fleshly zealotry. During the "new way" of the late 80's there were hundreds of stories like yours. Until one understands how Lee and LSM really operate, he/she will always be deceived by their abundance of teachings.

“If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****.”
― W.C. Fields

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Drake

Sadly, it is not fake news. Sometimes I wish it were, like when Titus’ coworker gets in a brothers face during a Mansfield meeting goading the brother to “punch him”. “Come on, punch me! You know you want to!.”

Nutty.

Drake

He apologized for all that, privately and publicly. I guess it was a "turn the other cheek" moment.

Listen, Drake, there was lots of nasty on both sides. Remind me once again about the justification LSM has to hold local training sessions teaching the saints to file lawsuits against their brothers and sisters.

And I found it extremely odd that LSMers would celebrate every judge's ruling in their favor as a ruling from the throne of God. Did not Paul instruct the Corinthians that it is a shame to go to the Gentiles' courts?

But none of these contentious issues ever existed in Mansfield until Benson Phillips decided to quarantine Titus Chu in a totally unscriptural, rather political, hit job the likes of which played out in nearly every other Midwest LC.

But lest the reader consider these ones sent from Anaheim to be angelic messengers sent from heaven, hundreds of other nightmare stories about LSM's fleshly ways of dividing churches can also be found on this forum.

[leastofthese]

Originally Posted by Drake

Sadly, it is not fake news. Sometimes I wish it were, like when Titus’ coworker gets in a brothers face during a Mansfield meeting goading the brother to “punch him”. “Come on, punch me! You know you want to!.”

Nutty.

Drake

Drake, from your experience with these matters. What could the LSM representatives done differently or better?

*edit- in regards to the the whole story in Mansfield