LSM/Blended Brothers Take Over of Mansfield

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Look at all Steve Isitt "Indiana" has gone through.

Max and Ingalls et. al. never had their quarantines lifted.

I have talked before how ludicrous these *quarantines* are.

They might be ludicrous, but they aren't funny.

Hosepipe (Elden Hall fame) once pointed out the carnage that was left in Lee's wake.

I know bro Drake has a favorable view of the LC ... to say the least ... bless his little pea pickin' heart. But the truth is that, prolly there's more that has walked away from the LC, than is in it at the moment. No one has kept a count.

But I've seen plenty leave, or get the boot. I remember when Max Rappoport was sent by Lee, to many localities. He was sent to shake things up. And that he did. He came to the c. in Ft. Lauderdale with an unusual message called, "On the Floor Fellowship" -- in other words, stop the all the spiritual pretending.

Right after that, a brother that came into the LC with me, a close friend before the LC, and up to that point a very on fire burning brother, walked, with strong outspoken vulgar opposition.

And word came back after Max left, of worse carnage in the other localities he assaulted. I was told in some cases that half the membership walked away.

Then, Mel Porter, head elder, stood up in meeting and said something like, "now that we've gotten rid of the dead weight, that was holding the church back, we can go on stronger than ever before.

That turned my stomach. Calling burning brothers and sisters, that were giving their all to Christ and the Church, dead weight, didn't wash with me in the least. That was just another bone of contention I had with Porter. By that time I had already caught on. That Porter had no touch with the Lord whatsoever. That all he had was blind zealotry towards Lee -- which is why Lee declared him lead elder of the c. in Ft. Lauderdale.

Then, years later, there was the quarantining of churches in the Mid-West.

More carnage ... that Christ wasn't causing. So much for the ground of locality bringing unity to Christians. That too was a great disappointment for me.

And I don't think he intends to, maybe he's never thought of it before, but brother Drake doesn't seem to show any sympathy toward those good brothers and sisters in the Lord, that were swept out, in Lee's wake. Maybe he thinks, or feels, "good riddance." Maybe he thinks good riddance toward all us exLCer's out here. Where the heart is, there lies the treasure.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by awareness

I know bro Drake has a favorable view of the LC ... to say the least ... bless his little pea pickin' heart......And I don't think he intends to, maybe he's never thought of it before, but brother Drake doesn't seem to show any sympathy toward those good brothers and sisters in the Lord, that were swept out, in Lee's wake. Maybe he thinks, or feels, "good riddance." Maybe he thinks good riddance toward all us exLCer's out here. Where the heart is, there lies the treasure.

Awareness,

Appreciate the prompt.

Once a year, maybe twice, I get compelled to restate my views on the subject you raise above. It is probably necessary because in the course of standing up for my convictions over many posts it may not be apparent where my sympathies lay.

I am very sympathetic toward people who went through some negative or traumatic experience in the local churches. I’ve expressed this sentiment many times. For instance, I have said under the same circumstances some described that I do not know if I would have reacted any different than they did. I’ve even said to you, concerning your personal experience, that I might very well have been tossed out with you had I been in your locality at that time. I just do not know and cannot know for sure not being in the moment.

I also am sympathetic to posters here who never made it through the experience emotionally intact. There are many here who have not come to terms. Some are in the quagmire of despair,... seemingly stuck in time some decades ago. To their detriment some here appear to encourage them to stay there. That is unhealthy. Expressing sympathy in that case doesn’t help though I feel it. A few years ago Max Rappaports daughter visited this or another forum like it and said Max was surprised that we were still talking about his experience and history and that he had moved on. So, he did not allow it to consume him.

However, because I spend 95% of my posts on misunderstandings, correcting what Brothers Nee and Lee actually taught vs what is reported here, and sadly refuting some outright fabrications and slander against brothers and sisters in the local churches it will appear by sheer volume alone that I am unsympathetic. Nothing could be further from my true feelings. Nevertheless, I don’t really blame anyone for holding those views about me, it just goes along with being only one of two regulars that care enough to wade into the fray come what may.

Thanks for asking.

Drake

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Drake

Awareness, Appreciate the prompt.
Once a year, maybe twice, I get compelled to restate my views on the subject you raise above. It is probably necessary because in the course of standing up for my convictions over many posts it may not be apparent where my sympathies lay.

Great response bro Drake. Thanks.