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[byHismercy]

One thing comes to mind is....Jesus was faithful to cast out demons and Satan when he encountered poor souls afflicted by their possession. Many people still today are possessed, and if they choose to be set free, we ministers of Christ can cast them out in Jesus' name, by the power of the Holy Spirit and they can be set free.

Just ask this of your stance on this matter....would Jesus really come down and make His abode in us.....and merely tolerate Satans' presence throughout a human lifetime??

It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever! I have faith that when a person believes into Jesus as the son of God, receives the Holy Spirit, and is born again....even if that person were afflicted with demonic or Satanic possession....before or after being regenerated....I believe Jesus would assuredly lead that person into an awareness of said unclean spirit....and lead them to help ridding themselves of it. Jesus never left a person alone, possessed, if they sought freedom!!!! Right? Anyone else agree with this thought?

His compassion for us is too great. He would not abide with Satan. This is the most disgusting aberration from Gods word. Please, brothers Drake, Evangelical....consider carefully...I am the least of the least of sisters.....but I HAVE the Spirit of God indwelling me.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

One thing comes to mind is....Jesus was faithful to cast out demons and Satan when he encountered poor souls afflicted by their possession.

inHismercy,

Please explain how Satan dwells in some people as stated above.

Thanks
Drake

[byHismercy]

Originally Posted by Drake

inHismercy,

Please explain how Satan dwells in some people as stated above.

Thanks
Drake

Drake, I know that Satan can possess an individual because we see Him enter Judas and the Lord cast him out of another, yes?

What I don't believe is his ability to indwell all persons in their flesh, because that gives him omniprescence. Only our God has that quality.

[Jo S]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

and the Lord cast him out of another, yes?

byHismercy, did Jesus cast Satan himself out of someone? Are you maybe referring to the women in the synogogue bound by Satan for 18 years? If so it reads as if Jesus freed her from the bonds of Satan, bonds being sin, but I don't take that she was possessed by Satan himself if that's the story you are referring to.

[Kevin]

As for me, I do not buy this kind of teaching. That is pretty weird stuff. I would not even waste time arguing against it. It is simply that there is not a shred of Scripture to support this contention. Unconverted sinners are clearly voluntarily under Satan's sway, but that does not mean that Satan is Sin or that he indwells believers.

[byHismercy]

Originally Posted by Kevin

As for me, I do not buy this kind of teaching. That is pretty weird stuff. I would not even waste time arguing against it. It is simply that there is not a shred of Scripture to support this contention. Unconverted sinners are clearly voluntarily under Satan's sway, but that does not mean that Satan is Sin or that he indwells believers.

I agree. Creepy and unfounded doctrine of Lees' invention.

[byHismercy]

Originally Posted by Jo S

byHismercy, did Jesus cast Satan himself out of someone? Are you maybe referring to the women in the synogogue bound by Satan for 18 years? If so it reads as if Jesus freed her from the bonds of Satan, bonds being sin, but I don't take that she was possessed by Satan himself if that's the story you are referring to.

Hi JoS, I was referring to the account in Matt. 8...but I was mistaken. Jesus cast demons( plural), not Satan, out of the two fierce ones,and let the devils go into the herd of swine. The Lord also cast demons out of many who were brought to Him in Capernaum. Sorry

[Drake]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

Drake, I know that Satan can possess an individual because we see Him enter Judas and the Lord cast him out of another, yes?

What I don't believe is his ability to indwell all persons in their flesh, because that gives him omniprescence. Only our God has that quality.

Right.

That’s ok. Wanted to understand what you believed. Just to close the loop many in this forum subscribe to Nigel Tomes’ viewpoint that Satan entering Judas was a rare if not one time event.

That matters neither here or there.

Drake

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

Drake, I know that Satan can possess an individual because we see Him enter Judas and the Lord cast him out of another, yes?

What I don't believe is his ability to indwell all persons in their flesh, because that gives him omniprescence. Only our God has that quality.

I think that multitudes of Christians claiming attacks from Satan around the world every day, gives him omnipresence. Even though you say he is not omnipresent, most Christians surely act as if he is. Where does Scripture say that Satan can attack multitudes of believers around the world every day?

[byHismercy]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

I think that multitudes of Christians claiming attacks from Satan around the world every day, gives him omnipresence. Where does Scripture say that Satan can attack multitudes of believers around the world every day?

Evangelical, earlier in this same thread same thread you said you believed if Witness Lee taught Satan indwelt us, he was wrong. You also declared to not believe Satan was omnipresent. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Did you position reverse because you know you cannot dispute WL doctrine...and remain in good standing with the LC?

Follow Gods word and be set free, brother.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by byHismercy

Evangelical, earlier in this same thread same thread you said you believed if Witness Lee taught Satan indwelt us, he was wrong. You also declared to not believe Satan was omnipresent. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Did you position reverse because you know you cannot dispute WL doctrine...and remain in good standing with the LC?

Follow Gods word and be set free, brother.

You are correct regarding my position. I don't believe Satan is omnipresent. However I was pointing out that in the minds of many Christians, it is as if he is omnipresent. I don't really see the difference between Lee's view of Satan (as sin) indwelling the flesh and that held by the majority of Christians that Satan is around every corner or attacking them every day. Both views could be considered as giving Satan a kind of omnipresence. If we address Lee's doctrine shouldn't we also teach Christians that Satan cannot possibly attack all of them who claim to be attacked by Satan?