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[Drake]

Originally Posted by A little brother

If Satan can enter Judas, it is possible that he entered Peter at that time too.

I am not theologically trained so my way to approach this is simple. Don't laugh at my reasoning but if you want to know, allow me to start with this question:

Did Satan know Jesus' plan to die for us on the cross to redeem our sin?

He didn't actually "redeem our sin"..... he redeemed us.

Yet, I don't think Satan knew the plan of salvation... but why do you ask?

Drake

[A little brother]

Originally Posted by Drake

He didn't actually "redeem our sin"..... he redeemed us.

Yet, I don't think Satan knew the plan of salvation... but why do you ask?

Drake

Oh, thanks. I stand corrected. You are right about the redemption. He redeemed us, not our sin.

Back to the question, if Satan did not know, why did he want to stop Jesus in Mat 16:22? Even if he did not know before Mat 16:21. Now Jesus spoke about his plan and Satan certainly knew Jesus would not lie. So should Satan have known after this?

[Drake]

Originally Posted by A little brother

Oh, thanks. I stand corrected. You are right about the redemption. He redeemed us, not our sin.

Back to the question, if Satan did not know, why did he want to stop Jesus in Mat 16:22? Even if he did not know before Mat 16:21. Now Jesus spoke about his plan and Satan certainly knew Jesus would not lie. So should Satan have known after this?

That is in interesting question, ALB.

Jesus did tell His disciples everything that was going to happen to Him. Did Satan find out at that time what Jesus' plan was? Did Satan upon hearing this plan enter Peter in a similar way he entered Judas to thwart the Lord's intention?

Its plausible but I don't think so and here's why.

If Satan knew of the plan of redemption he didn't need to stop it by using Peter... he could have stopped it by calling the Romans off or changing the minds of the chief priest so they never prosecuted Him. There is a verse that says something to the effect of "if the powers knew that the Lord was going to the cross..." . Well, I cannot recall it.

Anyway, I think then that Peter being called Satan was because his mind was emulating the mind of Satan... operating in the flesh, the good flesh mind you, but still operating not according to the things of God but the things of men.

Drake

[A little brother]

Originally Posted by Drake

Its plausible but I don't think so and here's why.

If Satan knew of the plan of redemption he didn't need to stop it by using Peter... he could have stopped it by calling the Romans off or changing the minds of the chief priest so they never prosecuted Him. There is a verse that says something to the effect of "if the powers knew that the Lord was going to the cross..." . Well, I cannot recall it.

Anyway, I think then that Peter being called Satan was because his mind was emulating the mind of Satan... operating in the flesh, the good flesh mind you, but still operating not according to the things of God but the things of men.

If you think Peter was emulating the mind of Satan, doesn't it mean Satan himself was not operating in his flesh?

Here is my reasoning:
1. It is very likely Satan did not hear what Jesus said at all. That means Satan did not indwell the flesh (of Peter or other disciples there); or

2. If Satan did hear Jesus' words (based on the theory of Satan indwelling the flesh), even if he did not fully comprehend the wisdom in the plan, doesn't it make sense to stop Jesus' foretold death from happening whatever it means? Afterall, as you said, he can simply call the Romans off. From this, I propose Satan does not indwell flesh.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Drake

If Satan knew of the plan of redemption he didn't need to stop it by using Peter... he could have stopped it by calling the Romans off or changing the minds of the chief priest so they never prosecuted Him. There is a verse that says something to the effect of "if the powers knew that the Lord was going to the cross..." . Well, I cannot recall it.

1Cor 2:8 which none of the rulers of this world hath known: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory:

However, this verse does not say that Satan could have stopped the plan of redemption, you may want to rethink that part.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

1Cor 2:8 which none of the rulers of this world hath known: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory:

However, this verse does not say that Satan could have stopped the plan of redemption, you may want to rethink that part.

I accept that. Yes, that is the verse I was trying to recall.

Thanks
Drake