Lee's Biggest Injustice

A little brother · 03-30-2018, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Evangelical

I thought every sunday is meant to celebrate the Lords death and resurrection? So why we need easter actually, except to remind people that go to church once a year that they should go to church?

The days that once a year hypocrites go to church sounds like a great time for real Christians to avoid.

Why not carry this one step further...

I thought every day is meant to celebrate the Lords death and resurrection? So why we need Sunday actually, except to remind people that go to church once a week that they should go to church?

The days that once a week hypocrites go to church sounds like a great time for real Christians to avoid.

You have missed the point here. If you have paid attention to the recent Winter training on Leviticus, you should have noticed that on top of daily regular burnt offerings, there are also special days (sabbath, beginning of month, feasts, ...) for additional burnt offerings.

If we can celebrate the Lord's resurrection on the "Day of the Sun", why can't we celebrate Jesus' birth on Christmas? Should our remembrance of the Lord be put aside to make way for pagan practices?

Evangelical · 03-31-2018, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by A little brother

Why not carry this one step further...

I thought every day is meant to celebrate the Lords death and resurrection? So why we need Sunday actually, except to remind people that go to church once a week that they should go to church?

The days that once a week hypocrites go to church sounds like a great time for real Christians to avoid.

You have missed the point here. If you have paid attention to the recent Winter training on Leviticus, you should have noticed that on top of daily regular burnt offerings, there are also special days (sabbath, beginning of month, feasts, ...) for additional burnt offerings.

If we can celebrate the Lord's resurrection on the "Day of the Sun", why can't we celebrate Jesus' birth on Christmas? Should our remembrance of the Lord be put aside to make way for pagan practices?

I disagree that every day is to celebrate the resurrection... The early church met on the first day of the week..the Lord's day. Weekly meetings are from the scripture. So you try to sound smart but your reasoning is foolish.

Most Christians defend easter and Christmas as being some kind of special day and celebrate without the pagan stuff. But consider that the choice of date itself is pagan and no Christians seem to bother to celebrate on the actual dates of Christs death and birth.

How would a wife or husband feel if we celebrated their birthday on the date of another woman or man? "Sorry honey...i won't celebrate your birthday on your actual birthday but on my ex girlfriends birthday because i dont want to give that up".
Paganism is like the ex girlfriend that the wife is reminded of every birthday that her husband doesnt want to forget.

If we celebrate Christian things on pagan days should we also celebrate easter and christmas on holy days of other religions? Suppose a muslim family in Iraq is converted..so now we celebrate Jesus birth on the day of Eid? If the europeans were muslim and not pagan then youd be celebrating Jesuss birth on a muslim holy day now wouldnt you?

Ohio · 03-31-2018, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Evangelical

I disagree that every day is to celebrate the resurrection... The early church met on the first day of the week..the Lord's day. Weekly meetings are from the scripture. So you try to sound smart but your reasoning is foolish.

Most Christians defend easter and Christmas as being some kind of special day and celebrate without the pagan stuff. But consider that the choice of date itself is pagan and no Christians seem to bother to celebrate on the actual dates of Christs death and birth.

How would a wife or husband feel if we celebrated their birthday on the date of another woman or man? "Sorry honey...i won't celebrate your birthday on your actual birthday but on my ex girlfriends birthday because i dont want to give that up".
Paganism is like the ex girlfriend that the wife is reminded of every birthday that her husband doesnt want to forget.

If we celebrate Christian things on pagan days should we also celebrate easter and christmas on holy days of other religions? Suppose a muslim family in Iraq is converted..so now we celebrate Jesus birth on the day of Eid? If the europeans were muslim and not pagan then youd be celebrating Jesuss birth on a muslim holy day now wouldnt you?

You were right about "foolish reasoning."

Evangelical · 03-31-2018, 05:47 AM

Dec 25 was chosen as the day to celebrate Christs birth because it happens to be the day pagans celebrated the birthday of the Sun. Now suppose that it was not european but middle eastern paganism that Christianity "replaced". Then the date of Christmas would be 20 November which is Mohammeds birthday.

With Easter an interesting fact is that unlike Christmas the date changes each year. This is because the date coincides with the phases of the moon which comes from paganism.

Little children are taught that Easter Sunday is when Christ died but the date changes each year because of the moon. Instead of fixing a date which can be deduced from scripture as sometime in April the early Christians decided to go with pagan moon cycles.

Drake · 03-31-2018, 07:23 AM

Evangelical,

You might be wrong in your assessment. Have you read this recently discovered ancient manuscript found in a rabbit hole near the eastern gate of the Temple Mount?

“Hear ye! Hear ye! All Christians and citizens of Jerusalem, who don’t actually want to stone us, are cordially invited to enjoin in a brand new celebration we are launching to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus.

Festivities will be held at the Eastern Gate of the Temple Mount, or the gate called Beautiful because with all the pretty colored eggs awaiting there for us it really will be beautiful! Commencing at sunrise the Apostle Peter will kick off the event by finding the first egg followed by the eleven each finding a colored egg in their own turn. The acapella “Mary Mary Mary Mary Quartet” will bless us with inspirational canticles during this time. This will be followed by the main event were everyone will enjoy the hunt and a sugar high of epic proportions. Baskets of chocolate bunnies, marshmallows, jelly beans, and other assorted confections will be enjoyed in abundance.

We also have a special guest joining the event.... the Eastern Bunny! (We tried to book Santa but a reindeer cull pretty much wiped out his transportation system). The Eastern Bunny will host the “chick chase” and whoever catches the golden chick will enjoy an all expense paid vacation to the Dead Sea!

We may have a Ham hocks dinner but some of the brothers are still having trouble with that whole “slay and eat blanket” story so we will see.

In the closing ceremony James will deliver a solo doxology ( that boy can sing! The best baritone west of the Jordan!) Don’t miss it!

This production will be second to none, A splendid time is guaranteed for all, and of course Henry the Horse dances the waltz!”

Kind of knocks the wind out of your argument wouldn’t you agree?
Drake

Evangelical · 03-31-2018, 07:32 AM

Oh..ha ha..you proved me wrong indeed. Now we know what the disciples were doing during the 3 days. They were hunting for easter eggs. Chocolate consumption was the best way for them to deal with the loss of Christ.

Drake · 03-31-2018, 08:17 AM

Ohio>”One of LSM's seven annual "Feasts" occurs on Chinese New Year, a pagan atheistic, ancient celebration of serpents, dragons, and moonpies.

Since WL was the MOTA, only he gets to decide which holidays will get "recovered."

Ohio,

You know this but for the sake of the passerby we will set the record straight.

The seven annual feasts are timed so that people can attend meetings during what would normally be a holiday. The Winter training is during Christmas, the summer training is during the 4th of July, there is Memorial Day, Thanksgiving, etc. and Chinese New Year.

There is no “recovery” of Christmas as there is no “recovery” of Chinese New Year in those feasts. The only recovery is people’s time from engaging in something pagan or secular to something godly. I don’t recall seeing the dragon dance performed in Taipai last month in that conference. If you did, then show us!

Drake

03-31-2018, 05:47 AM	#4
Evangelical Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 3,965	Re: Lee's Biggest Injustice Dec 25 was chosen as the day to celebrate Christs birth because it happens to be the day pagans celebrated the birthday of the Sun. Now suppose that it was not european but middle eastern paganism that Christianity "replaced". Then the date of Christmas would be 20 November which is Mohammeds birthday. With Easter an interesting fact is that unlike Christmas the date changes each year. This is because the date coincides with the phases of the moon which comes from paganism. Little children are taught that Easter Sunday is when Christ died but the date changes each year because of the moon. Instead of fixing a date which can be deduced from scripture as sometime in April the early Christians decided to go with pagan moon cycles.

03-31-2018, 07:23 AM	#5
Drake Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,075	Re: Lee's Biggest Injustice Evangelical, You might be wrong in your assessment. Have you read this recently discovered ancient manuscript found in a rabbit hole near the eastern gate of the Temple Mount? “Hear ye! Hear ye! All Christians and citizens of Jerusalem, who don’t actually want to stone us, are cordially invited to enjoin in a brand new celebration we are launching to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus. Festivities will be held at the Eastern Gate of the Temple Mount, or the gate called Beautiful because with all the pretty colored eggs awaiting there for us it really will be beautiful! Commencing at sunrise the Apostle Peter will kick off the event by finding the first egg followed by the eleven each finding a colored egg in their own turn. The acapella “Mary Mary Mary Mary Quartet” will bless us with inspirational canticles during this time. This will be followed by the main event were everyone will enjoy the hunt and a sugar high of epic proportions. Baskets of chocolate bunnies, marshmallows, jelly beans, and other assorted confections will be enjoyed in abundance. We also have a special guest joining the event.... the Eastern Bunny! (We tried to book Santa but a reindeer cull pretty much wiped out his transportation system). The Eastern Bunny will host the “chick chase” and whoever catches the golden chick will enjoy an all expense paid vacation to the Dead Sea! We may have a Ham hocks dinner but some of the brothers are still having trouble with that whole “slay and eat blanket” story so we will see. In the closing ceremony James will deliver a solo doxology ( that boy can sing! The best baritone west of the Jordan!) Don’t miss it! This production will be second to none, A splendid time is guaranteed for all, and of course Henry the Horse dances the waltz!” Kind of knocks the wind out of your argument wouldn’t you agree? Drake

03-31-2018, 07:32 AM	#6
Evangelical Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 3,965	Re: Lee's Biggest Injustice Oh..ha ha..you proved me wrong indeed. Now we know what the disciples were doing during the 3 days. They were hunting for easter eggs. Chocolate consumption was the best way for them to deal with the loss of Christ.

03-31-2018, 08:17 AM	#7
Drake Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Posts: 2,075	Re: Lee's Biggest Injustice Ohio>”One of LSM's seven annual "Feasts" occurs on Chinese New Year, a pagan atheistic, ancient celebration of serpents, dragons, and moonpies. Since WL was the MOTA, only he gets to decide which holidays will get "recovered." Ohio, You know this but for the sake of the passerby we will set the record straight. The seven annual feasts are timed so that people can attend meetings during what would normally be a holiday. The Winter training is during Christmas, the summer training is during the 4th of July, there is Memorial Day, Thanksgiving, etc. and Chinese New Year. There is no “recovery” of Christmas as there is no “recovery” of Chinese New Year in those feasts. The only recovery is people’s time from engaging in something pagan or secular to something godly. I don’t recall seeing the dragon dance performed in Taipai last month in that conference. If you did, then show us! Drake