Apostles in The Church: Yesterday and Today

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I learned a lesson from Michael Jordan that I think we could all benefit from. Initially he was a very high scoring offensive player who made up about 33% of his teams offense. As a result other teams created all kinds of defensive schemes aimed solely at stopping him. The best defender on the team played him, etc. Instead of crying about how he was being "duped" he learned from them. He was getting tutored by the best defensive players, best defensive minds, and best defensive schemes. As a result he soon became defensive player of the year and was named to the all defensive team seven times.

Did it ever occur to those who are so upset that "all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to his purpose."?

Perhaps this experience we had in the LRC which WL called "Training" was exactly the training that the Lord wanted for us?

Well, yes and no. Yes, God can cause all things to work for good. But God doesn't send the evil. He places us in a world where we are challenged by negative things, but he doesn't create the negative.

If your point is that how we bounce back is all-important, I agree. And it's a good point. If your point is "it's all good," I disagree.

But let's not rehash "the problem of evil" again, please!

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Igzy

Well, yes and no. Yes, God can cause all things to work for good. But God doesn't send the evil. He places us in a world where we are challenged by negative things, but he doesn't create the negative.

If your point is that how we bounce back is all-important, I agree. And it's a good point.:

16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the fire of coals, and bringeth forth a weapon for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. 17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, and their righteousness which is of me, saith Jehovah.

God made the smith that makes the weapons. He makes the destroyer who wields the weapons. So there is no one better able to train us. Hence his promise that "no weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper".

The promise is not that no one will form a weapon against us. The promise is not that no tongue shall rise against you in judgment. No. The promise is that you shall defeat everyone that does. You shall "condemn them". That is the promise.