Whistleblower

[Nell]

My Larry Nassar Testimony Went Viral. But There’s More to the Gospel Than Forgiveness.

Article in Christianity Today, January, 2018

Former gymnast Rachael Denhollander spent years discovering God’s perspective on sexual abuse. Then her advocacy for survivors cost her her church.

INTERVIEW BY MORGAN LEE| JANUARY 31, 2018

"...Yes. Church is one of the least safe places to acknowledge abuse because the way it is counseled is, more often than not, damaging to the victim. There is an abhorrent lack of knowledge for the damage and devastation that sexual assault brings. It is with deep regret that I say the church is one of the worst places to go for help. That’s a hard thing to say, because I am a very conservative evangelical, but that is the truth. There are very, very few who have ever found true help in the church. ... " (emphasis added)

This is an excellent interview by one of the Nassar victims and the response of the church to what happened to her.

Nell

[Nell]

Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment
(also called GRACE or G.R.A.C.E) is a Virginia 501(c)(3) non-profit organization formed by Basyle "Boz" Tchividjian to assist evangelical groups in confronting sexual abuse, particularly child sexual abuse, within their organizations.[1][2] Tchividjian is the grandson of Billy Graham and a law professor at Liberty University, who formerly worked as a prosecutor on sexual abuse cases.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godly_...an_Environment

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Nell

Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment
(also called GRACE or G.R.A.C.E) is a Virginia 501(c)(3) non-profit organization formed by Basyle "Boz" Tchividjian to assist evangelical groups in confronting sexual abuse, particularly child sexual abuse, within their organizations.[1][2] Tchividjian is the grandson of Billy Graham and a law professor at Liberty University, who formerly worked as a prosecutor on sexual abuse cases.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godly_...an_Environment

I'm friends with a sister who as a young child was sexually molested by her father ... a Baptist missionary in Pakistan.

Tchividjian is right. It really screw up her head for the rest of her life. It needs to stop, and covering it up only makes it worse.

Thanks Nell.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Nell

Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment
(also called GRACE or G.R.A.C.E) is a Virginia 501(c)(3) non-profit organization formed by Basyle "Boz" Tchividjian to assist evangelical groups in confronting sexual abuse, particularly child sexual abuse, within their organizations.[1][2] Tchividjian is the grandson of Billy Graham and a law professor at Liberty University, who formerly worked as a prosecutor on sexual abuse cases.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godly_...an_Environment

Nell, thanks for this post. I looked at the Wiki article, which interested me:

In the early 2000s, Tchividjian became convinced that Protestant institutions had not properly addressed incidents of sexual abuse, incidents that he believed would eventually lead to scandals similar to those that had damaged the Catholic Church.

In Tchividjian's view, the legalistic, authoritarian culture of some Protestant organizations was particularly susceptible to what he called "spiritual abuse" — the attempt of religious leaders to silence victims or convince them that they deserved their abuse Tchividjian has stated that, "When it comes to child sexual abuse, too many churches and Christian organizations prefer to sacrifice individuals in order to protect themselves. We end up living out the very antithesis of the Gospel that we preach. The consequences are devastating."

GRACE began in 2003 when a reporter called Tchividjian about a case of sexual abuse mishandled by a pastor.

Sounds all too familiar.

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[Steel]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Sounds all too familiar.

Yep... For sure when looking at the entirety of folly Christianity.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Steel

Yep... For sure when looking at the entirety of folly Christianity.

Huh?

But God sees no iniquity in Israel?

[Steel]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Huh?
But God sees no iniquity in Israel?

God knows the source of iniquity in the creature he determine was very good.

[Koinonia]

Originally Posted by Steel

Yep... For sure when looking at the entirety of folly Christianity.

Is the LC included? Or is this one of those "three fingers pointing back at you" deals?

[Steel]

Originally Posted by Koinonia

Is the LC included? Or is this one of those "three fingers pointing back at you" deals?

Absolutely... In both cases.

Any "Christian" can be found in, and express... All that is related to the "...ity..." suffix.

And this reality is even confirmed in the writings of published LSM resources... In fact, it was just a few months ago that we were reading ministry that spoke about religion being in every human... Including those of us reading the ministry.

[Nell]

I'm bringing this "Whistleblower" thread to the top because of Drake's comments on the "Self Serving Doctrine of Lee" thread. Specifically:

Originally Posted by Drake

Trapped,

In general you are describing a contrarian and indeed I may be just that in this forum. Not purposely, but rather my minority view will seem to be deliberately contrarian simply because it is a minority view.

But I can acknowledge the characterizations in your post no further than that. Reason is because your examples are very personal and extreme. Were someone to describe such an awful experience happening to them I would not respond as you suggest. First, no one can argue with ones personal experience for it is theirs. That is why I don’t and only offer a comparison with my own. Yet, I would not be so callous as to draw a personal comparison to sexual assault or the death of a loved one in the way you describe..... unless I had such an experience myself and sharing said experience would be supportive.

I know you meant well in hopes to offer me sound advice. I accept it in that spirit but you missed the mark in your chosen examples making further dialogue about it impossible for in so doing I would lend credibility to the extreme examples which I cannot.

Drake

If you look at Drakes comments on this thread, you can compare for yourself what Drake SAYS he would do, and what he SAYS in responding to actual victims of sexual abuse in the Local Churches as these women have testified, in writing, on this forum.

Then you can decide for yourself the veracity of Drake's comments above.

Nell