Smoking Gun?

Koinonia · 10-31-2017, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Drake

I stated several posts ago that it recently occurred to me that I never heard him say "Minister of the Age" or "MOTA"... and my sense was right...

Drake

It is not printed. That does not mean he never said it.

awareness · 10-31-2017, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Koinonia

It is not printed. That does not mean he never said it.

And never DID it. As I've stated I was kicked out over the MOTA practice being shoved down my throat, literally.

Drake · 10-31-2017, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Koinonia

It is not printed. That does not mean he never said it.

Okay... produce an audio then.

Drake

Koinonia · 10-31-2017, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Drake

Okay... produce an audio then.

Drake

Drake, did you believe that Witness Lee was "the minister of the age" while he was alive? If so, where did you get that idea?

ZNPaaneah · 10-31-2017, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Koinonia

Drake, did you believe that Witness Lee was "the minister of the age" while he was alive? If so, where did you get that idea?

Personally I think it is fascinating that you cannot find Witness Lee talking about being the MOTA anywhere in the written word. To me that is the most blatant hypocrisy. He knew that what he was speaking in meetings was a damnable heresy.

Drake · 11-02-2017, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Koinonia

Drake, did you believe that Witness Lee was "the minister of the age" while he was alive? If so, where did you get that idea?

No, not in those terms.

It was apparent that he was the one who was the lead minister in the ministry of the age. I got that idea because he obviously was.

Drake

ZNPaaneah · 11-02-2017, 06:04 AM

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No, not in those terms.

It was apparent that he was the one who was the lead minister in the ministry of the age. I got that idea because he obviously was.

Drake

Was it the "Ministry of the Age" because of the "Ground of the Church" doctrine, or were there other factors that were necessary?

Drake · 11-02-2017, 06:54 AM

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Was it the "Ministry of the Age" because of the "Ground of the Church" doctrine, or were there other factors that were necessary?

ZNP,

Your starting point is always doctrine which I have already stated is a non-starter for me personally.

In any case, I don’t understand your question. Please rephrase.

Thanks
Drake

ZNPaaneah · 11-02-2017, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Drake

ZNP,

Your starting point is always doctrine which I have already stated is a non-starter for me personally.

In any case, I don’t understand your question. Please rephrase.

Thanks
Drake

You said it was obvious that Witness Lee was the lead minister in the Ministry of the Age. I am asking what made it obvious to you that this was the "Ministry of the Age"?