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Originally Posted by Drake

Brother Lee referred to "shouters". Chris meant "Shouters".

The government refers to any believers who practice calling or praying audibly as "Shouters", no matter cult or genuine believer. At one time most in this forum probably would also have been called "Shouters".

Big S "Shouters" refers to a number of cults with unorthodox and aberrant teachings. Many little s "shouters", believers who pray aloud or call on the Lord, have suffered persecution from the government as they try to stamp out the "Shouters" cults. In truth, the government appears content to conflate the two because the house churches, mostly composed of little s shouters, are also targets for extermination.

However, we in this forum should not conflate the two. Primary reason is that the government searches for any information to justify its persecution of those in the house churches. I am confident Aron, that if you thought your post would lend any support to the Chinese governments campaign against Jesus loving believers in China you would endeavor to be as accurate as possible.

That is why I bring it up.

Drake

Hey guys, Aron & Drake, and all others, gals included, here's what I have on Lee and the "S"houters in China. It's just a snippet, with a link to a downloadable pdf, of the whole official document, provided at bottom, where it's much cleaner than this cut and paste has provided here:

Refugee Review Tribunal
AUSTRALIA
RRT RESEARCH RESPONSE
Research Response Number: C11N30336
Country: China
Date: 11 July 2006
Keywords: C11N30336 – China – Shaanxi Province – Christians – Shouters – Labour Camps
This response was prepared by the Country Research Section of the Refugee Review
Tribunal (RRT) after researching publicly accessible information currently available to
the RRT within time constraints. This response is not, and does not purport to be,
conclusive as to the merit of any particular claim to refugee status or asylum.
Questions
1. Please provide any evidence of a PSB crackdown on the illegal Christian group, the Shouters, in Yan’An in Shaanxi Province around January 2006.
2. What is the general attitude of the Chinese authorities to the Shouters?
3. Please provide any evidence of Shouters or other illegal Christians being sent to labour camps from southern China around 2005-2006.
RESPONSE
Please note that the Shouters (otherwise known as the Local Church or huhan pai), founded by Li Changshou (otherwise known as Witness Lee), traces its origins to the Little Flock, founded by Ni Tuosheng in the late 1920s.
1. Please provide any evidence of a PSB crackdown on the illegal Christian group, the Shouters, in Yan’An in Shaanxi Province around January 2006.
No information on a PSB crackdown on the Shouters in Yan’An, Shaanxi around January 2006 was found amongst the sources consulted.
On 10 July 2006, Tony Lambert, an expert on Christian groups in China and author of China’s Christian Millions (2006), was asked whether there was any evidence of a PSB crackdown on Shouters in China (RRT Country Research 2006, Email to Tony Lambert ‘Request for assistance from Refugee Review Tribunal, Sydney Australia (RRT ref: C11N30336)’, 10 July – Attachment 1).
On 12 July 2006, Tony Lambert advised that he is “unaware of a particular current drive by the PSB against the Shouters”:

The main cults under attack now are Eastern Lighting, and just recently Three Grades of Servants whose leaders face imminent execution. Shaanxi, particularly Ankang in the SW corner of the province may be a stronghold of the Mentuhui (Discipleship) group (Lambert, Tony 2006, Email ‘Request for assistance from Refugee Review Tribunal, Sydney Australia (RRT ref: CHN30336)’, 12 July – Attachment 9).
2. What is the general attitude of the Chinese authorities to the Shouters?
Recent information on the Shouters in China is scarce. The responses and reports below indicate that the group remains banned and operate underground although a limited number of Local Churched have registered with local authorities. Sources also indicate that official repression continues.
Research Response CHN30207 dated 14 June 2006 and Research Response CHN17561 dated 7 October 2005 provide information on the current situation of Shouters in China (RRT Country Research 2006, Research Response CHN30207, 14 June – Attachment 2; and RRT Country Research 2005, Research Response CHN17561, 7 October – Attachment 3).
Jason Kindopp’s PhD dissertation on Protestantism in contemporary China dated 16 May 2004 provides new information on the Local Church in China.

Complete Official Document at: http://www.imnothere.org/LocalChurch/TonyLambert.pdf