Brainwashing

I feel that I need to come in and perhaps explain my position more clearly. When I say worship, I do not mean that they bring offerings or that they prostrate themselves on the ground and call out this person's name. I am defining worship as complete adoration and exclusivity as well as infallibility. And when I said that he functions as an intermediary, I did not mean of course that they see him as taking the position of Christ. Even the pope does not claim to take the position of Christ except as Viceroy here on Earth. But they do see his teachings and Revelations as absolutely necessary in their lives in order to achieve the appropriate and proper relationship with God. They believe that outside of his teachings, it cannot be done except for very rare examples. No, their worship is a focusing of attention on and an unvarying acceptance of a fallen human being's teachings. Again, if you grant someone infallibility and give them this kind of reverence and adulation, is it not a form of worship? It certainly is (as one of you so accurately said above) idolatry. I really love the Saints in the LC. And I think it is perfectly fine if they enjoy this man's teachings. It is the inability to perceive that others might be receiving Revelation that is necessary to the body that bothers me along with the belief that nothing he has said can never be questioned. I don't believe in following any man. Certainly not to this extent. Again, if the Bible tells us that each man has, why is this not acknowledged or allowed? This mindset is totally contrary to scripture.

[Drake]

Aron > "Two words for you: "Deputy God" and I capped them because they're a specific position & person in the LC."

Provide the quote please.

Thx
Drake

[aron]

Originally Posted by Drake

Aron > "Two words for you: "Deputy God" and I capped them because they're a specific position & person in the LC."

Provide the quote please.

Thx
Drake

You have never seen LSM teachings?

[Drake]

Originally Posted by aron

You have never seen LSM teachings?

Provide quote please .... "Deputy God"

[aron]

Originally Posted by Drake

Provide quote please .... "Deputy God"

Here is my quote:

Witness Lee was Deputy God. He was Apostle of the Age. He was the Minister of the Age. He was the Acting God.

Witness Lee was the sole mediating agent between sinful man on earth, and the God of heaven. He was the earthly analog to the ascended Christ.

Aron 9/21/17

I was there for years. I read their works for years afterward to figure out what I'd gotten tangled in. And that's what I found out. There was one Ascended Master, who alone had exalted status. Anyone who got under him got blessed; any who opposed were cursed by God.

The One Publication edict merely codified what had been tacitly accepted along - that henceforth there was to be one unique source of divine supply.

[aron]

Originally Posted by aron

Here is my quote:

Witness Lee was Deputy God. He was Apostle of the Age. . .

Of course this won't satisfy Drake. He wants a published ministry sample. But the ministry wasn't that dumb to get caught thus. They wouldn't publish what they spoke. That would hurt recruiting. But once you got inside, it was the constant message.

One brother told me at the end of Witness Lee's life, that he had been a covering for the church. People said that he had inherited the mantle of Watchman Nee. The question became, who is the next Spiritual Giant? (Only one per age, folks). Then we were told the age had turned. The Age of Spiritual Giants was over.

But did they publish that? Doubtful.

Or, "Witness Lee is the fourth of the Godhead." A zealous FTTT encorcer. Of course Lee wasn't happy when he heard that. They had gone too far. But he pushed the authority thing until his minions spoke like that.

Or, "We do what we are told." Didn't get published, but spoken by the long-time right-hand of the current Maximum Blended. A brother in the southeast, BM, was protesting PL ruining the fellowship. Brother RG put him to the quick. But I don't think that conversation made it to the pages of HWMR.

Or, "When I tell you to blow your nose, you only are to ask me, 'Which nostril?'" Spoken by another ministry enforcer to a member of this forum.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No, their worship is a focusing of attention on and an unvarying acceptance of a fallen human being's teachings.

Again, if you grant someone infallibility and give them this kind of reverence and adulation, is it not a form of worship?

Again, if the Bible tells us that each man has, why is this not acknowledged or allowed? This mindset is totally contrary to scripture.

Unreg,

To your three points above.

1) Other than Christ, what human being is not fallen? We should reject any teaching if it comes from a fallen human being? Gonna get real lonely real fast!

2) Witness Lee was not infallible and he has not been "granted" infallibility. Cite your reference for this.

3) It's true each "one" has (not "man"). Of course, this is acknowledged and the meetings in the Lords Recovery are geared around this. Yet, I think you are missing that though each one has, their function differs.

Drake