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[awareness]

Originally Posted by Nell

The issue is, are the lemon passages translated correctly or not?

I have a cousin here that I've been very close to since we were youngins'. When I was in the local church I turned him onto Watchman Nee.

That aside, he's been a staunch conservative Southern Baptist most all his life. Eventually 10 yrs or so ago he took classes in Koine Greek so he could read the N.T. in the original Greek. Before learning Greek he was a KJV inerrantist.

I had lunch with him yesterday and talked to him about translations. He said that none of the translations are inerrant, that something is always lost when the Greek is translated. Moreover, he discovered something in his Greek classes. Before the classes he was a Received Text only (KJV manuscripts). But in the Greek classes he discovered that there were many Greek manuscripts, and they don't agree with each other. As a result he's no longer an inerrantist.

So sister Nell, the answer to, is the translations correct, is, none of the translations are correct. And even more, it's likely none of the manuscripts are correct. We don't know, and prolly never will, unless we discover the autograph originals, that's not probable in the least.

[Nell]

Originally Posted by awareness

...And even more, it's likely none of the manuscripts are correct. We don't know, and prolly never will, unless we discover the autograph originals, that's not probable in the least.

Here's what Bushnell says about the original text in God's Word to Women, Lesson 1, Paragraph 3:

"3. The assumption that the text needs amending, to any great extent, is very erroneous. A candid acceptance of the testimony as to its history proves that the original text has been preserved in manuscripts with scarcely an important change. It is known that the Scribes wrote out their copy with immense care, as to the Hebrew Old Testament. They copied even supposed errors, calling attention to seeming irregularities by slight marks, but not venturing to correct. They have left records to show that when copying they counted each consonant and vowel-letter in each line, and kept records of the same, in order to verify their finished work. Superstition alone was enough to cause the Jews to preserve their Scripture text inviolable, they prized the letter beyond the spirit of the Word. The Apostle Paul speaks indirect testimony of their faithful preservation of the Hebrew text, since had it been otherwise, the Jews would have been less in favour with God, Romans 3:1-2. Jesus Christ strongly denounced the misinterpretation of the Scriptures by the “traditions” of the Jews, Mark 7:9-13, etc., but He never accused the Jews of corrupting the text of their Scriptures."

Nell

[awareness]

I read that sis. But thanks for repeating it. Still, current Bible scholarship proves it's another example of Bushnell being mistaken. I think back then, in the early part of the 20th c. Bushnell was like my cousin before he learned Koine Greek.

[Nell]

Originally Posted by awareness

I read that sis. But thanks for repeating it. Still, current Bible scholarship proves it's another example of Bushnell being mistaken. I think back then, in the early part of the 20th c. Bushnell was like my cousin before he learned Koine Greek.

Do you really think your cousin's Koine Greek creds qualify him to comment on the Hebrew text?

One more thing, please don't call me "sis".

Nell

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Nell

Do you really think your cousin's Koine Greek creds qualify him to comment on the Hebrew text?

Prolly as qualified as Bushnell.

One more thing, please don't call me "sis".

Nell

I gotta know, for future relations with other sisters in the Lord. What's bad about "sis?" Should I not refer to brothers as "bro," or is this just a female bias kinda thingie?

[Nell]

Originally Posted by awareness

Prolly as qualified as Bushnell. I gotta know, for future relations with other sisters in the Lord. What's bad about "sis?" Should I not refer to brothers as "bro," or is this just a female bias kinda thingie?

This is me asking you not to call me "sis". The answer is either yes or no.

Cracks like "is this just a female bias kinda thingie" in no way indicate that you respect me as your sister in Christ. Your frequent crude and vulgar remarks are distasteful to me. When you turn around and call me "sis", it makes me feel dirty. So there you have it.

Please don't call me "sis".

Nell