Women's Role

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

I don't really disagree with you, but might lower the 90% a little (really depends on the elder, and their wife). I said something along these lines in my earlier posts, such as #4. But the wives leading the church under the covering of their husbands is not deemed sufficient for many on this forum it would seem. It did not seem so for the person QOSTA raising the issues, who wanted to know if any women got to a leadership "position" on the basis of their own spirituality (not her husband's, presumably).

That is why IMO Paul says what he does. 2/3 of the church is women, if you allow women to take leadership positions without men you marginalize men to the point that the church becomes 90% women with a few passive men who don't care. I have seen this played out in various churches with female leaders.

Also this does nothing to set a positive example for families.

As for the question about "did any women get a leadership position based on their own spirituality (not her husband's)" this I feel is the error. How exactly do we know what the woman's spirituality is? If her family is a mess, her husband is a mess, her children are a mess, but she is "spiritual"? You can have a ministry without being an elder. You can publish books, teach, evangelize, etc. Go for it. No one needs to "give you" a leadership position. But if you are truly "spiritual", taking care of widows and orphans, teaching the younger sisters, leading by example then who cares if someone "gives you" a leadership position.