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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

You'd be an ignoramus if you thought the companies involved in healthcare cared more about human health than for profits.

I have long doubted that the entire medical profession really cared for human health. Sick people keep them rich.

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Ohio

I have long doubted that the entire medical profession really cared for human health. Sick people keep them rich.

I guess they should just be in debt up to their eyeballs to pay for all the years of education required to be allowed to practice medicine and just give their services away for less than required to cover their costs.

Besides, in today's litigious society, since there is always a significant risk of lawsuit, there is a legitimate need to earn more to encourage them to take the risk of losing it all.

And when you doubt the care for human health, the reason that many doctors have such terrible "bedside manner" is that they are very concerned with treating/curing human health issues, but not always so good at dealing with other aspects of the person, or being "personable." They are not being called to the vocation of pastor/shepherd. They are highly-skilled technicians. Not entertainers or social workers.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by OBW

I guess they should just be in debt up to their eyeballs to pay for all the years of education required to be allowed to practice medicine and just give their services away for less than required to cover their costs.

Besides, in today's litigious society, since there is always a significant risk of lawsuit, there is a legitimate need to earn more to encourage them to take the risk of losing it all.

And when you doubt the care for human health, the reason that many doctors have such terrible "bedside manner" is that they are very concerned with treating/curing human health issues, but not always so good at dealing with other aspects of the person, or being "personable." They are not being called to the vocation of pastor/shepherd. They are highly-skilled technicians. Not entertainers or social workers.

Since the biggest concern with healthcare is the cost it seems reasonable that cutting cost through efficiency is a valid and perhaps desirable strategy. It is well proven that Medicare is the most efficient system out there and would save billions of dollars. I see no reason why a single payer system would have to result in doctors being in debt up to their eyeballs. Likewise, you can always pay for a doctor out of pocket, so Medicare does not restrict the free market capitalism of medicine.

I was in the hospital in England and it was a much better experience than any I have had in the US. I also was in the hospital in Taiwan and that experience was also excellent. None of these doctors appeared destitute.

Also, there is a valid interest in having every person covered with insurance. First, the hospitals are forced to provide a minimum care regardless and this burden should be born by all, not foisted onto a few poor hospitals. Second, who wants someone with TB or some other communicable disease living on buses and subways because they can't afford medical care?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by OBW

I guess they should just be in debt up to their eyeballs to pay for all the years of education required to be allowed to practice medicine and just give their services away for less than required to cover their costs.

Besides, in today's litigious society, since there is always a significant risk of lawsuit, there is a legitimate need to earn more to encourage them to take the risk of losing it all.

And when you doubt the care for human health, the reason that many doctors have such terrible "bedside manner" is that they are very concerned with treating/curing human health issues, but not always so good at dealing with other aspects of the person, or being "personable." They are not being called to the vocation of pastor/shepherd. They are highly-skilled technicians. Not entertainers or social workers.

Doctors make up a small percentage of the health profession.