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[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Jr has agreed that the emails are authentic, that he had the meeting, and that the purpose of the meeting was to get information from the Russians who hacked the democrats email.

None of this convicts him of a crime but it does justify the need for an investigation.

I have no problem with Trump and his associates lawyering up and am happy to give them the presumption of innocence. But at this stage their is sufficient undisputed evidence for me to justify the investigation.

BTW since when did Gingrich become so emasculated that he can't get an investigation by the senate of the Democrats or Lynch? This is not an either or, we can have both. Let's make America great again and have both investigations!

Gingrich is a private citizen, author, news contributor, consultant. How is he supposed to arrange such investigations?

And what proof do you have that this lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who sent the emails, was sent by the Russian Government. She appears to have endless connections to Democratic officials, for example California Rep. Ron Dellums was a hired lobbyist for her, and she worked for years on a case with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, a firm that produced a widely discredited dossier against Trump. She also worked with Christopher Cooper, the founder and CEO of Potomac Square Group, which has had Democratic clients including California Government Jerry Brown, Democratic presidential nominee Howard Dean, and Joe Trippi, according to the Daily Caller. And it was Obama’s Attorney General Loretta Lynch that granted her an extension in late 2015 to stay in the U.S. after her visa was due to expire, under “extraordinary circumstances.” Four days after her meeting with Trump Jr. on June 9, 2016, she was in Washington, D.C. for a movie screening of an anti-Magnitsky Act film at the Newseum with at least five congressional staffers and State Department officials.

She is dirty, Donald Jr. is not.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Gingrich is a private citizen, author, news contributor, consultant. How is he supposed to arrange such investigations?

And what proof do you have that this lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who sent the emails, was sent by the Russian Government. She appears to have endless connections to Democratic officials, for example California Rep. Ron Dellums was a hired lobbyist for her, and she worked for years on a case with Glenn Simpson, the founder of Fusion GPS, a firm that produced a widely discredited dossier against Trump. She also worked with Christopher Cooper, the founder and CEO of Potomac Square Group, which has had Democratic clients including California Government Jerry Brown, Democratic presidential nominee Howard Dean, and Joe Trippi, according to the Daily Caller. And it was Obama’s Attorney General Loretta Lynch that granted her an extension in late 2015 to stay in the U.S. after her visa was due to expire, under “extraordinary circumstances.” Four days after her meeting with Trump Jr. on June 9, 2016, she was in Washington, D.C. for a movie screening of an anti-Magnitsky Act film at the Newseum with at least five congressional staffers and State Department officials.

She is dirty, Donald Jr. is not.

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:
Good morning
Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.
The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.
This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.
What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?
I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.
Best
Rob Goldstone

On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:
Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?
Best,
Don

This is the email exchange that preceded their meeting. This is enough to warrant an investigation.

As for Gingrich he was rebuked for an ethics violation, that's why he resigned from Speaker of the House. He therefore should know that the House and Senate can authorize and conduct investigations of Lynch.

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Originally Posted by Ohio

And what proof do you have that this lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who sent the emails, was sent by the Russian Government.

Proof? Haha. As if the evidence is all in. But add this to this Something Burger :

Revealed: Ex-Soviet SPY was at the meeting Don Jr held with Russian lawyer - and intelligence services believe mystery man STILL has links to Kremlin

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-meeting.html

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Fox News Politics :

"Heads will roll after Trump Jr. leaks, Corey Lewandowski says"
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...wski-says.html

Note : "Axios reports there’s considerable anger on the Trump team over who leaked the information to the Times in the first place."

So team Trump is upset that it was discovered that they were hiding evidence from an ongoing investigation?

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It just keeps on coming. It's even blowing Fox's mind :

"'Why is it lie after lie after lie?': Fox News anchor goes off on Trump administration..."

"Wallace also seemed to make an appeal to those defending the Trump Jr. meeting.

"This really shouldn't be a matter of liberal vs. conservative, pro-Trump vs. anti-Trump," Wallace said. "If you're a fair-minded citizen, you ought to be concerned about the fact that we were repeatedly misled about what this meeting concerned.""
http://www.businessinsider.com/shep-...ox-news-2017-7

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Hey folks, this Something Burger is still hoppin'. In fact, every morning I wake up never knowing what to expect will be coming out of the WH, and new revelations coming to light - and tweets coming from our Puffer-Fish-in-Chief.

Way to many to report out here. The forum server couldn't handle it. In fact : "if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen."

But at least it's entertaining. And Puffer-Fish hasn't lied us into a war. Not yet anyway.

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"Donald Trump, champion and avatar of the shallow state, has won power because his supporters are threatened by what they don’t understand, and what they don’t understand is almost everything. Indeed, from evolution to data about our economy to the science of vaccines to the threats we face in the world, they reject vast subjects rooted in fact in order to have reality conform to their worldviews. They don’t dig for truth; they skim the media for anything that makes them feel better about themselves. To many of them, knowledge is not a useful tool but a cunning barrier elites have created to keep power from the average man and woman. The same is true for experience, skills, and know-how. These things require time and work and study and often challenge our systems of belief. Truth is hard; shallowness is easy."

David Rothkopf is visiting professor at Columbia University's School of International and Public Affairs