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[zeek]

Can you say "Veselnitskaya"?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by zeek

Can you say "Veselnitskaya"?

They are finding more and more hidden ties to the Russians during Trump's campaign. And now Trump wants to start a cybersecurity unit with Russia. Isn't that just letting the fox into the hen house?

[zeek]

Originally Posted by awareness

They are finding more and more hidden ties to the Russians during Trump's campaign. And now Trump wants to start a cybersecurity unit with Russia. Isn't that just letting the fox into the hen house?

Putin trumped Trump.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by zeek

Putin trumped Trump.

Until Trump came along, the USA had been winning every hand of cards?

[ZNPaaneah]

I think there are a lot of interesting parallels between Trump and Andrew Jackson.

Like Trump Andrew Jackson's daughter played a pivotal role in his administration.

Also like Trump the level of "fake news" and vicious media attacks were off the charts. Andrew Jackson was an outsider, the first president to be be elected who was not part of the ruling elite, defeating John Adams, who was part of the existing political dynasty. Also, like Trump Andrew Jackson campaigned with a brand new approach where he walked with the people and interacted directly with the common man. Also, like Trump's building a wall to keep out the Mexicans, removing the Indians was a major part of Jackson's campaign.

However, as people I would say that Jackson was the antithesis of Trump. Jackson was intensely loyal, which is why he was called "old hickory". His loyalty extended to anyone and everyone that was "on his team" including indians and their families. In contrast Trump cuts loose anyone and everyone, famous for his "your fired" line. Also it was quite obvious in his writing and speaking that the Bible and the work of Christ infused his heart, whereas with Trump any reference of his to the Bible is so superficial you realize it is contrived. However, whereas Trump has no issue using religion for political purposes Jackson absolutely refused since his understanding of the constitution was that as President he didn't want to present a biased impression concerning religion.

Why is this important? Jackson was president as the country split apart. You could see the impending civil war. Jackson was also battling the corrupt influence of a national bank. Also the debate was over State's rights vs Federal govt. Today the debate is over whether or not our Federal government has become too powerful and is in violation of the constitution with whistleblowers like Snowden coming forward with their warnings.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I think there are a lot of interesting parallels between Trump and Andrew Jackson.

Perhaps Andrew Jackson should rather be compared to Hillary Clinton whose outbursts have also been the subject of much scrutiny ...

Jackson's quick temper was notorious. Biographer H. W. Brands notes that his opponents were terrified of his temper: "Observers likened him to a volcano, and only the most intrepid or recklessly curious cared to see it erupt. ...His close associates all had stories of his blood-curling oaths, his summoning of the Almighty to loose His wrath upon some miscreant, typically followed by his own vow to hang the villain or blow him to perdition. Given his record—in duels, brawls, mutiny trials, and summary hearings—listeners had to take his vows seriously."

(from H. W. Brands, Andrew Jackson: His Life and Times)

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Perhaps Andrew Jackson should rather be compared to Hillary Clinton whose outbursts have also been the subject of much scrutiny ...

(from H. W. Brands, Andrew Jackson: His Life and Times)

That reminds me of a very funny story which is also a similarity with Trump.

When Andrew Jackson was elected president they interviewed a woman from a town he lived in as a young man. She was shocked --'Andrew Jackson? The Andrew Jackson that lived here? He is president? He was a rake. Wow, I guess that means anyone can be president.' I paraphrase but that was the sentiment.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

That reminds me of a very funny story which is also a similarity with Trump.

When Andrew Jackson was elected president they interviewed a woman from a town he lived in as a young man. She was shocked --'Andrew Jackson? The Andrew Jackson that lived here? He is president? He was a rake. Wow, I guess that means anyone can be president.' I paraphrase but that was the sentiment.

A Rake: "a fashionable or wealthy man of dissolute or promiscuous habits"

Sounds like JFK, LBJ, WJC, DJT and so many other alpha dog politicians.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

They are finding more and more hidden ties to the Russians during Trump's campaign. And now Trump wants to start a cybersecurity unit with Russia. Isn't that just letting the fox into the hen house?

You still believe these fake news stories?