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Old 06-09-2017, 01:14 PM   #1
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Actually Putin said that hackers are independent artist types, who wake up just to hack. And he can't control what they do. That's plausible denial for what?
And Reality Winner exposed what? What was that about Russian military hackers?
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And Reality Winner exposed what? What was that about Russian military hackers?
Who names their kid Reality Winner?

This is why the NSA should be shut down. The monumental idiocy of leaker Reality Leigh Winner.
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Who names their kid Reality Winner?

This is why the NSA should be shut down. The monumental idiocy of leaker Reality Leigh Winner.
Comey continually testified that the Russians were very active in our recent election process.

What he never informed us, conveniently I'm sure, is which side they favored and why.
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Old 06-10-2017, 09:20 AM   #4
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Comey continually testified that the Russians were very active in our recent election process.

What he never informed us, conveniently I'm sure, is which side they favored and why.
We'll know that on a need to know basis only.
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Old 06-10-2017, 10:01 AM   #5
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We'll know that on a need to know basis only.
That's a "leaky" way to learn amything.

When listening to Comey word for word, he seems far more credible than Trump.

But then I remember my old adage -- not to pay attention to what politicians say, but rather what they do. Comparing last years' conclusion on Hillary, to this years' statements on Trump, Comey's politics become extremely obvious.

Comey read a litany of felonious actions by Hillary, and then abruptly concluded the investigation saying no "reasonable" prosecutor would indict her. Thus he smeared thousands of prosecutors around the country as "unreasonable."

His vast team of investigators have yet to find one shred of evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians, yet Comey continues to mastermind a network of leakers to smear Trump and keep the investigation open.

Obviously poor naive Reality Winner was only following the examples of her many superiors by leaking classified documents. They, however, get those golden parachutes. She gets an orange jumpsuit.
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Old 06-10-2017, 11:57 AM   #6
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That's a "leaky" way to learn amything.

When listening to Comey word for word, he seems far more credible than Trump.

But then I remember my old adage -- not to pay attention to what politicians say, but rather what they do. Comparing last years' conclusion on Hillary, to this years' statements on Trump, Comey's politics become extremely obvious.

Comey read a litany of felonious actions by Hillary, and then abruptly concluded the investigation saying no "reasonable" prosecutor would indict her. Thus he smeared thousands of prosecutors around the country as "unreasonable."

His vast team of investigators have yet to find one shred of evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russians, yet Comey continues to mastermind a network of leakers to smear Trump and keep the investigation open.

Obviously poor naive Reality Winner was only following the examples of her many superiors by leaking classified documents. They, however, get those golden parachutes. She gets an orange jumpsuit.
Right on bro Ohio. And then there's Robert Mueller.
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Old 06-11-2017, 04:48 AM   #7
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Right on bro Ohio. And then there's Robert Mueller.
You do realize that any Russian interference or collusion in our presidential election impugns Obama and the Democrats more than anyone. They were in power, they were entrusted to protect the sanctity of the process. If Mueller finds evidence of Russian influence it will be the fault of the Democrats, not Republicans, and if he doesn't then he cannot possibly prove Obstruction of Justice.

Second, if you are going to prove obstruction you must take Comey's testimony as credible. But, if you do that it also impugns the AG under Obama for politicizing the investigation of Clinton.

There is no way that Mueller's investigation can prove that Trump is the bad guy, rather it can only prove that our entire system is very corrupt, which ironically is why people voted for Trump. If Mueller is able to prove that our system is very corrupt, a highly probably possibility, then ironically it could go a long way towards "draining the swamp".
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Old 06-10-2017, 04:00 PM   #8
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Obviously poor naive Reality Winner was only following the examples of her many superiors by leaking classified documents. They, however, get those golden parachutes. She gets an orange jumpsuit.
I haven't paid attention other than just the briefest overview. From what I understand she released the information that the Russians were trying (or maybe were successful) to hack the voting machine software to influence/rig/damage US elections. This information was leaked at a time the official line was that the Russians had not violated the sanctity of our election process.

Other than exposing the official line as a lie, did she reveal state secrets or put intelligence sources at risk?

Since the threat continues and presumably gets more and more likely of Russian success it seems one benefit of this leak is to make all Americans more aware and more serious about this threat to democracy.

If you could explain the real damage she has done or potentially done to our national security through this leak that would help me get a more balanced view of what has happened. Thanks
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