Lee's Trinity

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Drake

It is clear from colossians 2:9 that through incarnation the fullness of the Godhead dwelt in Jesus bodily. This was a change and one that never happened before incarnation. There can be no denying this was a change. Divinity entered humanity.

You are right. Humanity changed. Or at least one human did. But God did not. The Son, before incarnation, had the fullness of the Godhead, therefore God did not change in this fact. The only change was to a single man.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by OBW

You are right. Humanity changed. Or at least one human did. But God did not. The Son, before incarnation, had the fullness of the Godhead, therefore God did not change in this fact. The only change was to a single man.

Yes! This was God"s work in incarnation. And it is wonderful!

Drake

[Nell]

When discussing "God changed" it should be noted that God is eternal, while man is constrained by the limits of time. Men are ill equipped to understand the "eternal God", and to propose that the Eternal God "changed" is like the clay expounding it's finite understanding of the nature and workings of the eternal Potter.

God began addressing the topic with Job in Job 38:4, "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?" God's blistering rebuke continues in Job chapters 38-42.

Nell

[OBW]

Originally Posted by Drake

Yes! This was God"s work in incarnation. And it is wonderful!

Sounding like a training meeting. Get everybody worked up to a lather with true things. Stir it higher by pushing them with your own excited words.

Then slip in something ridiculous and they mistake that "Oh NO" in their minds for more exuberance and they just take it without another thought.

Yes. This is God's work in incarnation. And it is wonderful.

But you didn't cause that statement to even infer anything about a change in the Son.

It is not evidence that God changed, or that at this point the fullness of the Godhead came to be on the Son. (And you may have judiciously avoided saying that — I'm not sure.) He was already fully the Godhead. As are the Father and Spirit. The only thing that changed was a collection of human tissue and the life that was within it. All that came into that human.

Of course it had to because the Son was living there. It was/is unavoidable. The Son had the fullness of the Godhead and now lived in a human body, so that body, and the person known to the humans who came in contact with him, now had the fullness of the Godhead. Now in a body, so "bodily."

No change in God. Not even a change in you or me (at that point). But a change in that one human. A very significant change at that.

But not a change in God.

[OBW]

As Unto has posted on the sidebar today, Lee was full of hollow statements about what the Bible says.

Likewise, the Spirit is not separate from the Son. From these two titles it seems They are two separate persons. But when you get into the depth of the details in the verses that cover this matter, you see that the Spirit comes in the name of the Son, He comes to testify concerning the Son, and He glorifies the Son. Furthermore, the Son has given everything He is and has to the Spirit. These points indicate that the Spirit and the Son are one.

Time to go into the online LSM books and see how much actual evidence he brings out v how much he says that verses not presented or hinted at support him. Maybe he thinks he has some. But his track record is poor.

[OBW]

Unto,

Where is that quote found in Lee's book?

[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by OBW

Where is that quote found in Lee's book?

The Book is: "The Divine Dispensing of the Divine Trinity"

Supposedly this quote can be found on "139-140", however a direct link to this portion of the book was not given by on the website "Triune.Org"

Here is a link to the book at Barnes and Noble:
"The Divine Dispensing of the Divine Trinity"
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