Tis the season

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Igzy

I have no idea what you are talking about and am pretty sure you don't either.



The birth of Jesus is about God giving his Son. Please try to keep up.

And millions and millions of Christians who do celebrate the Lord's birth at Christmas would disagree with you.

The fact is, if Christmas was not about Christ it would have long since ceased being celebrated in Western culture. Yes, many of its outward trappings have pagan origins. So what? The essence of it now is the birth of Christ, whether you realize it or not. After all, how many other ancient holidays do we celebrate? Easter? Same thing.

What bothers me about you LCMers is you are all about the outward. You gripe about Christmas having artifacts from a long gone pagan past and you don't worry about the very real and much more immediate and damaging corruptions that presently exist in the movement you've given your lives to. You don't even want to know about the corruptions! You're too busy bashing Christmas of all things! As if you are going to change the world if you rant about Christmas. What a waste of time!

That to me is straining at gnats and swallowing camels. It's much easier to throw bombs over the fence than to deal with problems in your own backyard.

Jesus asked us to remember His death, not His birth (please try to keep up ). So those millions of Christians are doing something Jesus never asked them to do. What a waste of time! (and money).

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Jesus asked us to remember His death, not His birth (please try to keep up ). So those millions of Christians are doing something Jesus never asked them to do. What a waste of time! (and money).

Pretty weak stuff, Javert.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Igzy

Pretty weak stuff, Javert.

aww I thought I'd try my hand at humor. Now I'm sad that yourself as the forum's court jester did not like it . I will try to stay serious from now on.

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

aww I thought I'd try my hand at humor. Now I'm sad that yourself as the forum's court jester did not like it . I will try to stay serious from now on.

Sorry I missed it. Better insert a smiley when you're trying to be funny. I'm a little on the fringe of the Asperger Spectrum.

BTW, Can I ask you a personal question?

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Igzy

Sorry I missed it. Better insert a smiley when you're trying to be funny. I'm a little on the fringe of the Asperger Spectrum.

BTW, Can I ask you a personal question?

What's the question

[Cal]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

What's the question

How old are you?

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by Igzy

How old are you?

I am not far off middle age.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

Jesus asked us to remember His death, not His birth (please try to keep up ). So those millions of Christians are doing something Jesus never asked them to do. What a waste of time! (and money).

Honestly? Do you really think that a Bible that conveys a Mary who pondered these things in her heart, that gives us a very detailed account of His birth, that gives us many prophecies concerning His birth, that celebrates this birth with an angelic chorus singing Hosanna in the Highest. Are you honestly telling us that we have not been told, in the word of God, to remember these things?

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

Honestly? Do you really think that a Bible that conveys a Mary who pondered these things in her heart, that gives us a very detailed account of His birth, that gives us many prophecies concerning His birth, that celebrates this birth with an angelic chorus singing Hosanna in the Highest. Are you honestly telling us that we have not been told, in the word of God, to remember these things?

We are to remember His whole life, of which death was His life's purpose.
So yes, birth is included in that. But not to the exclusion of His death and resurrection. I notice that most Christmas occasions recognize the birth of Christ, but few recognize His death and resurrection.

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Evangelical

We are to remember His whole life, of which death was His life's purpose.
So yes, birth is included in that. But not to the exclusion of His death and resurrection. I notice that most Christmas occasions recognize the birth of Christ, but few recognize His death and resurrection.

When you take issue with Christmas I can follow your concerns right up to the point where you are bothered with them focusing on Luke 2. That is where you lost me.

[Evangelical]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

When you take issue with Christmas I can follow your concerns right up to the point where you are bothered with them focusing on Luke 2. That is where you lost me.

Understood. I meant "the bible does not say to celebrate Christ's birth to the exclusion of celebrating His death". My point was focus on Luke 2 to the exclusion of the rest of the gospel.