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Old 12-12-2016, 09:18 PM   #1
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Jesus was addressing the how not the where. The Samaritan thought worship was about the where, but Jesus said it's about the how. This does not address the question about where people should congregate. We see from the New Testament, that the believers met in the temple and from house to house. The fact that the believers met in specific places and does not say that they met "wherever they liked" (e.g. on a boat, in a shopping mall, up a tree) proves that Jesus's words to the Samaritan woman did not mean they can congregate wherever they think best. Jesus held the last supper in a house, Mark's house, and the early Christians continued this tradition of meeting in houses. In fact, the last supper took some preparation (Luke 22:7-16)

10 And He said to them, “Behold, when you have entered the city, a man will meet you carrying a pitcher of water; follow him into the house which he enters. 11 Then you shall say to the master of the house, ‘The Teacher says to you, “Where is the guest room where I may eat the Passover with My disciples?”’ 12 Then he will show you a large, furnished upper room; there make ready.”

Jesus did not say like you have "guys, just find a place anywhere, the location does not matter, because we worship in Spirit and truth".

This fact disproves everything you say about meeting anywhere we like. The idea that we should not just congregate anywhere is also practiced by the denominations. Worshiping in a certain place is characteristic of the denominations. For example, a Catholic will not go to mass except in a Catholic church building, a Lutheran will not unless in a Lutheran church building. Ask anyone in such a denomination and they will tell you like I have - where we meet is important too.

Common sense tells us that we should not hold a wedding or funeral just anywhere. Because of the occasion we should hold weddings and funerals in an appropriate place. It is the same with the Lord's Table, we cannot just hold it in a place not fit for the occasion. If you want to meet anywhere you should join the New Age religion, they like to meet anywhere, in trees, on a park bench, on a beach etc. Probably this idea of meeting anywhere comes from the hippie Jesus movement not the Bible or church history.
The Lord's word here is NOT about meeting anywhere you like, and neither was my post.

That is once again your twisting of scripture, and twisting my words.

The Lord's words are about worshiping the Father in spirit and in truth NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE.

Huge difference. Sorry if you can't understand that, but Paul did say that the "soulish man can not know the things of the Spirit."
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The Lord's word here is NOT about meeting anywhere you like, and neither was my post.

That is once again your twisting of scripture, and twisting my words.

The Lord's words are about worshiping the Father in spirit and in truth NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE.

Huge difference. Sorry if you can't understand that, but Paul did say that the "soulish man can not know the things of the Spirit."

really?

Post # 9 you said "I have worshiped the Father receiving communion at a Catholic wedding mass, in a home meeting, traveling in a car, in my bed, in a university examination, being berated by brothers, being outcast by family. When we consider all of God's children, there is just no limit to the "places" our Father has been worshiped in spirit and reality. "

That sounds like meeting anywhere you like to me...
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really?

Post # 9 you said "I have worshiped the Father receiving communion at a Catholic wedding mass, in a home meeting, traveling in a car, in my bed, in a university examination, being berated by brothers, being outcast by family. When we consider all of God's children, there is just no limit to the "places" our Father has been worshiped in spirit and reality. "

That sounds like meeting anywhere you like to me...
No ... It sounds like worshiping the Father in spirit and in truth ... Anywhere you happen to be.

Is that too difficult for you to comprehend?
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