I've Been Thinking

UntoHim · 11-24-2016, 08:35 AM

Sorry if my word about being under the sovereign will of God sounded threatening to you. I certainly did not want you to take it that way.

None of us actually have the power to threaten or blame anyone. Besides, life if too short and too fragile to waste it in that manner. Unfortunately, this is what you took away from the false religion of the Local Church of Witness Lee. As I noted, their judgments are neither true nor righteous. This is the main reason that I brought forth those passages from the Gospel of John, where it plainly states that the Lord Jesus came not to condemn the world, but that the world may be saved through him.

As far as "the sovereign will of God" is concerned, I would liken it to the law of gravity. We are certainly free to live within the law of gravity. In fact, it can be used for our benefit. We are also free to "disobey" the law of gravity, but we will suffer a consequence. I see someone in your position as standing at the precipice of a very high cliff. You are challenging the law of gravity at great peril. I am merely warning of the great peril you face. Would you call this threatening or condemning you?

Take care my friend. I think Carol's post is spot on. You should consider what she has to say.

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Evangelical · 11-24-2016, 02:42 PM

Hi,

you've been through a lot. God is very kind, compassionate and loving. Some people think like this - maybe I wasn't truly saved, was I really saved, maybe I wasn't. But there's really no such thing as true salvation and false salvation, in this life anyway. True salvation would be when we die and go to heaven. False salvation is when we think we will go to heaven and instead we go to hell. This is decided when d We are all human beings who have a good side and a dark side. We all need a Savior. There is only one way to guarantee we won't go to hell. Talk to God and ask Him to save you because of what Jesus did on the cross. Don't expect any answer or any feeling because God is invisible. But when you die you can be sure you will go to heaven and not hell because of what Jesus did 2000 years ago.

God is everywhere, and we can see God in people, we can see God in nature, every bird, every tree. Thank God for making the birds and making the trees. Thank God for making you and me. Just go through life thanking God for various things, even the bad things, that come our way. And if we don't feel like it, we learn to thank Him anyway. This is the way to experience and know God.

11-24-2016, 08:35 AM	#1
UntoHim Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον For God So Loved The World Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,828	Re: I've Been Thinking Sorry if my word about being under the sovereign will of God sounded threatening to you. I certainly did not want you to take it that way. None of us actually have the power to threaten or blame anyone. Besides, life if too short and too fragile to waste it in that manner. Unfortunately, this is what you took away from the false religion of the Local Church of Witness Lee. As I noted, their judgments are neither true nor righteous. This is the main reason that I brought forth those passages from the Gospel of John, where it plainly states that the Lord Jesus came *not to condemn* the world, *but that the world may be saved through him. As far as "the sovereign will of God" is concerned, I would liken it to the law of gravity. We are certainly free to live within the law of gravity. In fact, it can be used for our benefit. We are also free to "disobey" the law of gravity, but we will suffer a consequence. I see someone in your position as standing at the precipice of a very high cliff. You are challenging the law of gravity at great peril. I am merely warning of the great peril you face. Would you call this threatening or condemning you? Take care my friend. I think Carol's post is spot on. You should consider what she has to say. - __________________ αὐτῷ ἡ δόξα καὶ τὸ κράτος εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων ἀμήν - 1 Peter 5:11*

11-24-2016, 02:42 PM	#2
Evangelical Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 3,965	Re: I've Been Thinking Hi, you've been through a lot. God is very kind, compassionate and loving. Some people think like this - maybe I wasn't truly saved, was I really saved, maybe I wasn't. But there's really no such thing as true salvation and false salvation, in this life anyway. True salvation would be when we die and go to heaven. False salvation is when we think we will go to heaven and instead we go to hell. This is decided when d We are all human beings who have a good side and a dark side. We all need a Savior. There is only one way to guarantee we won't go to hell. Talk to God and ask Him to save you because of what Jesus did on the cross. Don't expect any answer or any feeling because God is invisible. But when you die you can be sure you will go to heaven and not hell because of what Jesus did 2000 years ago. God is everywhere, and we can see God in people, we can see God in nature, every bird, every tree. Thank God for making the birds and making the trees. Thank God for making you and me. Just go through life thanking God for various things, even the bad things, that come our way. And if we don't feel like it, we learn to thank Him anyway. This is the way to experience and know God.