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[Intothewind]

Besides, y'all love a man too

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Intothewind

Besides, y'all love a man too

Don't know what you're driving at, but, I hope we all love our biological father ... and he's a man.

[Intothewind]

Awareness: indeed.

I don't see why the legalization of gay marriage is such a big deal to conservative Christians. You're not of this world, why should you care how the govt. Defines marriage? If God doesn't see it as marriage...it should matter not what man calls it.

And then a surprising lack of concern for issues that should matter to all...the loss of a healthy middle class, policy on climate change, environmental regulations, and humanitarian causes. Perhaps God will fix those.

[Intothewind]

Awareness: indeed.

I don't see why the legalization of gay marriage is such a big deal to conservative Christians. You're not of this world, why should you care how the govt. Defines marriage? If God doesn't see it as marriage...it should matter not what man calls it.

Trump seems to be supportive of the lgbtq community. I wonder if that angers fundamentalists.

And then a surprising lack of concern for issues that should matter to all...the loss of a healthy middle class, policy on climate change, environmental regulations, and humanitarian causes. Perhaps God will fix those.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Intothewind

Awareness: indeed.

I don't see why the legalization of gay marriage is such a big deal to conservative Christians. You're not of this world, why should you care how the govt. Defines marriage? If God doesn't see it as marriage...it should matter not what man calls it.

Trump seems to be supportive of the lgbtq community. I wonder if that angers fundamentalists.

And then a surprising lack of concern for issues that should matter to all...the loss of a healthy middle class, policy on climate change, environmental regulations, and humanitarian causes. Perhaps God will fix those.

Conservative God-fearing Christians are very interested in moral issues, economic issues, climate issues, and social issues, humanitarian issues, being very concerned for the country we leave our children. We are not of this world, but does that mean we don't care about jobs, education, crime, etc. Your logic is upside down in my opinion.

For the most part, there is no fixing the serious issues of our day. For example, when the federal deficit was half its size we spent more time discussing it. Have you not noticed that things are deteriorating rather than improving. Racial tensions are higher than ever, yet statistics say the AA communities are worse off than ever. There is much emphasis today on lgbt "rights," but their demographics and social status are among the highest economically.

Time will tell whether the Bible or the wishful utopians are correct.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Time will tell whether the Bible or the wishful utopians are correct.

Like Thomas Jefferson said of believing in fantastical supernatural things : "It neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket."

That's how I feel about all this gay "problem." Of course if we believe the Bible is supernatural then we know how it feels about homosexuality ; starting in Leviticus, the 3rd book of the Bible.

But Leviticus has lots of laws and commandments from God in it. How come Christians aren't up in arms about processing and eating pork, or lobster, or shrimp ... just to list a few. Not even Westboro Baptists are picketing and protesting against those. Talk about cherry picking laws from the Bible.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

Like Thomas Jefferson said of believing in fantastical supernatural things : "It neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket."

That's how I feel about all this gay "problem." Of course if we believe the Bible is supernatural then we know how it feels about homosexuality ; starting in Leviticus, the 3rd book of the Bible.

But Leviticus has lots of laws and commandments from God in it. How come Christians aren't up in arms about processing and eating pork, or lobster, or shrimp ... just to list a few. Not even Westboro Baptists are picketing and protesting against those. Talk about cherry picking laws from the Bible.

Do you really want an answer for this?

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Do you really want an answer for this?

Yeah ... how come?

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by awareness

That's how I feel about all this gay "problem." Of course if we believe the Bible is supernatural then we know how it feels about homosexuality ; starting in Leviticus, the 3rd book of the Bible.

But Leviticus has lots of laws and commandments from God in it. How come Christians aren't up in arms about processing and eating pork, or lobster, or shrimp ... just to list a few. Not even Westboro Baptists are picketing and protesting against those. Talk about cherry picking laws from the Bible.

Leviticus was written to Israel under the Old Covenant.

Leviticus was not written to the church under the New Covenant.

As a general rule, unless the New Covenant specifically instructs us to receive something from the Old Covenant, I do not follow its laws or ordinances.

Concerning the eating of pork et.al. Firstly, it is an old covenant regulation. Secondly, there is no new covenant instruction to abstain from pork. Thirdly, Peter in his trance was specifically instructed to eat all manner of foods. (Acts 10.9-16)

Concerning homosexuality. Firstly, it was an old covenant regulation. (Leviticus 18.22, 20.13) Secondly, there is a strong warning about this from the judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Genesis 19) Amos 4.11 and numerous other verses repeat this warning to Israel. Thirdly, the New Testament reiterates this injunction. (Romans 1.26-27, I Timothy 1.10, I Cor. 6.9) The tragedy of Sodom and Gomorrah is also remembered in Jude 7 and 2 Peter 2.6.

This is why Christians do not view the eating of pork and homosexuality the same.

[Intothewind]

Paul, instructs to abstain from blood and strangled animals as well. I know plenty of LC folks who eat cubed blood...certainly many who eat meat that is not kosher. I think homosexuality, like evolution, just really hits deep on fundamental belief