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Old 04-24-2016, 09:20 PM   #1
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This is my second post regarding Max and Sandee Rappaport. As I mentioned in my earlier post, they were my first spiritual mentors after I turned my life over the Lordship of Jesus Christ. The young people who attended their "coffee house" ministry in San Clemente invited me to attend on the weekends and Wednesday evenings. Those were life changing meetings, and after nearly 48 years, I can still remember how the Lord used them to impact my life.

I thank God for Max and Sandee, and hope they are still standing strong for the Lord, or have been restored from any wounds they may have received along their journey.

If anyone knows where they are, please post their contact information.

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Old 04-25-2016, 11:27 AM   #2
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I thank God for Max and Sandee, and hope they are still standing strong for the Lord, or have been restored from any wounds they may have received along their journey.

If anyone knows where they are, please post their contact information.

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Last I knew of, Max and Sandee were in or near Riverside, California. No, I don't have their contact info.
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Old 04-25-2016, 02:36 PM   #3
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https://archive.org/details/ReligionVersusReality

This link was posted back a couple of years ago and it is a service Max Rapoport spoke at in a church in Corona California (near Riverside)

The church seems to be some sort of Charismatic non-denominational fellowship. At the point of this recording, Febuary of 2008, Max and Sandee had been members there for 5 years or so. Upon looking at their website, Max is not listed in the church staff directory.


http://www.newhopefwc.com/home.html


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Old 05-01-2016, 07:48 AM   #4
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https://archive.org/details/ReligionVersusReality

This link was posted back a couple of years ago and it is a service Max Rapoport spoke at in a church in Corona California (near Riverside)

The church seems to be some sort of Charismatic non-denominational fellowship. At the point of this recording, Febuary of 2008, Max and Sandee had been members there for 5 years or so. Upon looking at their website, Max is not listed in the church staff directory.


http://www.newhopefwc.com/home.html


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I came in to TLR right after brother Max R exited. The saints in my locality were happy he was gone, saying they had been doing some "Tom Foolery" while he was leading.

From this clip, it is clear he loves the Lord and His word. He has a big presense like a few other brothers still in TLR, but seems somewhat humbled.

If you were in TLR in Max's days, please enlighten me about that era and what you see in this clip.

JJ
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Old 05-01-2016, 08:49 AM   #5
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I came in to TLR right after brother Max R exited. The saints in my locality were happy he was gone, saying they had been doing some "Tom Foolery" while he was leading.

From this clip, it is clear he loves the Lord and His word. He has a big presense like a few other brothers still in TLR, but seems somewhat humbled.
JJ, I joined the church in Cleveland 2 years before Max departed. Much has been written about Max on this forum. At one point his daughter posted on the board. Here's the Cliff's Notes version:

Max was gifted salesman, turned evangelist, and groomed by Lee. With the new start of LSM (Stream Publishers ended) in Anaheim on Ball Road, Max was promoted to heir apparent and the "Universal Coordinator of the One New Man." Lee used Max to travel to the LC's, disrupting them, and shaking up their leadership with the goal of bringing all the saints under his dominion. Max signaled the end of "local churches," and the beginning of the "one body," code words for LSM maneuvers.

Lee used Max like a pawn, taking advantage of his talents and relative Christian immaturity. Max was morally upright, however, and confronted Phillip Lee in a restaurant about his affair at the new LSM office under construction. To avoid family embarrassment, Lee shamed Max's wife publicly, an old Chinese custom, while Max was out of town doing Lee's bidding. Lee called it the "sisters' rebellion." With Lee's takeover plans hitting a pothole, he dumped Max, blaming everything on him, and came out smelling like a rose.

Later on after he departed, Max repented, realizing he was used and discarded by Lee, and returned to his First Love. Apparently, the Lord did restor his ministry. Lee, however, never took any responsibility for his actions. Phillip later surfaced to create more chaos, expel elders and workers, molest more female "interns" at LSM, create a money-making enterprise, and bring all the saints under subjection.
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JJ, I joined the church in Cleveland 2 years before Max departed. Much has been written about Max on this forum. At one point his daughter posted on the board. Here's the Cliff's Notes version:

Max was gifted salesman, turned evangelist, and groomed by Lee. With the new start of LSM (Stream Publishers ended) in Anaheim on Ball Road, Max was promoted to heir apparent and the "Universal Coordinator of the One New Man." Lee used Max to travel to the LC's, disrupting them, and shaking up their leadership with the goal of bringing all the saints under his dominion. Max signaled the end of "local churches," and the beginning of the "one body," code words for LSM maneuvers.

Lee used Max like a pawn, taking advantage of his talents and relative Christian immaturity. Max was morally upright, however, and confronted Phillip Lee in a restaurant about his affair at the new LSM office under construction. To avoid family embarrassment, Lee shamed Max's wife publicly, an old Chinese custom, while Max was out of town doing Lee's bidding. Lee called it the "sisters' rebellion." With Lee's takeover plans hitting a pothole, he dumped Max, blaming everything on him, and came out smelling like a rose.

Later on after he departed, Max repented, realizing he was used and discarded by Lee, and returned to his First Love. Apparently, the Lord did restor his ministry. Lee, however, never took any responsibility for his actions. Phillip later surfaced to create more chaos, expel elders and workers, molest more female "interns" at LSM, create a money-making enterprise, and bring all the saints under subjection.
It's been said of Witness Lee's unwillingness to reconcile with Max, "God is sovereign."
Maybe in respect to Max and Phillip, blood is thicker than water. In a sense they were both pawns. Max lined up local churches to become ministry churches and Phillip made LSM a multi-million dollar business and his father a millionaire in the process with the ministry churches as conduits to distribute Lee's ministry.
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It's been said of Witness Lee's unwillingness to reconcile with Max, "God is sovereign."
Lee and LSM have never reconciled with anyone.

And that is God's sovereignty?
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https://archive.org/details/ReligionVersusReality

This link was posted back a couple of years ago and it is a service Max Rapoport spoke at in a church in Corona California (near Riverside)

The church seems to be some sort of Charismatic non-denominational fellowship. At the point of this recording, Febuary of 2008, Max and Sandee had been members there for 5 years or so. Upon looking at their website, Max is not listed in the church staff directory.


http://www.newhopefwc.com/home.html


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Thanks for sharing this above URL. I was happy to see Max speaking again.
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