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Old 04-13-2016, 07:59 AM   #1
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Default Re: Titus Chu Conference at "Chicago Gospel Hall" (April 9-10, 2016)

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..."So then, no more boasting about men! All things are yours, whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future - all are yours, and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God"...1 Cor 3:21-23
These scriptures are quite fitting for all LC members ...

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But our comely members have no need. But God has blended the body together, giving more abundant honor to that member which lacked, so that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. -- I Cor 12.24-25
Both in Corinth, throughout church history, and in the Recovery, divisions were repeatedly caused by not heeding these verses. Where was the "same care" for one another? Where was the "more abundant honor" to the less comely, less gifted members? Just the opposite was the Recovery norm. So it's no wonder we were constantly warring and dividing over Lee and Chu, or Max and Dong. Every LC sooner or later, or both sooner and later, was fighting over whether we were of Lee or of Chu. They were not "ours," but we were "theirs." We did not own them, rather they owned us.

In Romans, Paul exhorted us to "Love one another warmly in brotherly love, vying with one another in showing honor." (12.10) But in Kangas' book A Response to Recent Accusations (p.68) he says, "If the saints have honored Witness lee excessively, who can condemn them? The Bible will not." Obviously Kangas has changed his Bible to read, "Love one another warmly in Brother LEE love, vying with one another in showing him honor."

I'm not just playing with words here. Examine the facts of history. Read the side of history hidden from LC members. Compare our sordid history with the Apostles' teachings to Corinth. The reason for all of our 10-year "storms" was never due to "ambitious men," but because faithful men of God spoke their conscience in the face of ministry exaltation and corruption.
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Old 04-13-2016, 12:11 PM   #2
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Default Re: Titus Chu Conference at "Chicago Gospel Hall" (April 9-10, 2016)

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In Romans, Paul exhorted us to "Love one another warmly in brotherly love, vying with one another in showing honor." (12.10) But in Kangas' book A Response to Recent Accusations (p.68) he says, "If the saints have honored Witness lee excessively, who can condemn them? The Bible will not." Obviously Kangas has changed his Bible to read, "Love one another warmly in Brother LEE love, vying with one another in showing him honor."
Ron should go back and re-read 1 Corinthians. Condemn would be too strong to say, but definitely there's a sense of rebuke in Paul's first epistle to Corinth.

"And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual men, but as to men of flesh, as to infants in Christ. I gave you milk to drink, not solid food; for you were not yet able to receive it. Indeed, even now you are not yet able, for you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like mere men? For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not mere men?
What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave opportunity to each one. I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth. So then neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but God who causes the growth. Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor. For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.
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