Article: Beware of the writings of the Watchman

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by Freedom

WL implied that everyone else had somehow compromised the truth. Thus to turn away from Lee's ministry was equated as turning away from the faith itself.

Lee's subjective truth was implied to be received as factual. Because of the subjective truth, you can see where an "Us versus Them" mindset comes in. If you don't agree with Lee's subjective truth as being fact, you could see where the phrase comes in, "those who aren't with us are against us". Those of who ignored LSM's quarantines were deemed as being against them because of not being partial towards LSM in the matter. There's no middle ground.

[aron]

Originally Posted by Terry

Lee's subjective truth was implied to be received as factual.

All of us have subjective experiences of Christ. Thank God for that!

But whom of us presumes that our subjective experience is a one-for-one analog with reality itself, and that anything "different" (depending on how generous we're feeling [that old self-absorbed feeling, again]) is equivalent to falling away from grace?

Only those greatly deceived, is whom.

No, most of us are willing to have our personal truths pruned by the flock, by hard experience, and by scripture. Most of us.

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Put it another way: "So subjective is my Christ to me/real in me, and rich and sweet" (Hymns, 537) that I won't let Witness Lee's subjective experience of Christ displace it. Just as I don't expect my experience of Christ to dominate the flock, neither do I allow another's to dominate my perspective, and shape it so wholly.

Paul didn't impose himself as MOTA, nor did he subject himself to others' attempts, "not for one minute". No one should have such free reign in us, save Christ Himself. No single sinner can stand between us and Christ, as Christ stands between us and God. None. I don't see it anywhere in the Word. I see the opposite. "In the plurality of voices, there is safey" Proverbs 11:14

Again, look at the "much discussion" on important subjects, in Acts (e.g. 15:7). Where is much discussion in the LC? Nowhere, is where.

[aron]

Originally Posted by aron

Who presumes that their subjective experience is a one-for-one analog with reality itself?

Let's look at this line from hymn #537 by Witness Lee, again. ""So subjective is my Christ to me/real in me, and rich and sweet"

The "my Christ" of Witness Lee was so subjective to him, that it could replace, or supersede, the objective Christ witnessed in the text of the Bible. You know, the One "who went around doing good", for example (Acts 10:38; cf Matt 9:35). As Lee disciple and current Maximum Bro BP is fond of saying, "We don't care for that." No indeed: you don't care for the objective reality in front of you, preferring the subjective "my Christ" of Lee.

Lee's Christ was so subjective to him, in fact, that nobody else's Christ mattered. In the LC, it was not the Christ of scripture, not anyone else's own experience of the Holy Spirit, not our God-given common sense, not our conscience, not the witness of Christian history, not the collective testimony of the flock of God. Only the subjective "my Christ" of the Deputy God mattered.

I'd say, maybe Witness Lee's "so subjective" Christ was a bit too subjective. Just a thought.