picketers outside conferences

Intothewind · 09-12-2015, 08:27 PM

I recall some people would hold signs saying all kinds of things about the lc. Sounds like many were ex. Lcers....since they know the when and where

Did anyone stop to engage these folk?

TLFisher · 09-13-2015, 11:57 AM

Never heard of it happening....until now.

Intothewind · 09-13-2015, 09:32 PM

Yeah it was fairly common.

Folk would hold banners near building 8 or the hyatt in burlingame.

I wish I can recall accurately sone of them. I recall one accusing of the church taking property from them in some way

Freedom · 09-13-2015, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Intothewind

Yeah it was fairly common.

Folk would hold banners near building 8 or the hyatt in burlingame.

I wish I can recall accurately sone of them. I recall one accusing of the church taking property from them in some way

Now you have my curiosity perked. I attended trainings regularly before building 8 was built, and I don't remember seeing picketers at any point. I would presume that it was ex-members or those with some relationship to the LC. It's not like the WBC would come out to picket LSM

bearbear · 09-16-2015, 02:21 AM

I remember coming across one of these picketers as I was driving away from a regional type conference in Santa Clara or San Jose (not Burlingame) where Ron Kangas was speaking. Can't remember the hotel exactly.

One of the people in my car saw someone that held up a sign that said "the Local Church ruined my family". I empathized with them because this was around the time I had already decided to leave the LCs and was fantasizing about escape plans in my mind but was feeling dejected because I couldn't see how my wife who was dragging me to all these conferences and trainings at the time would also come around to it.

I wanted to go to talk to one of them but there were others in my car at the time. I think folks like them that have been dearly hurt could find healing at a forum such as this.

Freedom · 09-16-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bearbear

One of the people in my car saw someone that held up a sign that said "the Local Church ruined my family". I empathized with them because this was around the time I had already decided to leave the LCs and was fantasizing about escape plans in my mind but was feeling dejected because I couldn't see how my wife who was dragging me to all these conferences and trainings at the time would also come around to it.

It says a lot that there are people out there who have strong enough feelings about the LC to go picket conferences/trainings. It's not an approach that I would take, but come to think of it I could also hold up a sign saying "the Local Church ruined my family", because it did, in an indirect way.

I'm sure current members would see these things and just assume it's an "attack of the enemy" - wherever they are, the enemy will be "attacking". It probably serves as reinforcement to them. Why can't members ever just consider for a minute that there are people out there who have been hurt by the LC? Is it really too difficult to admit that?

TLFisher · 09-16-2015, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Freedom

It says a lot that there are people out there who have strong enough feelings about the LC to go picket conferences/trainings. It's not an approach that I would take, but come to think of it I could also hold up a sign saying "the Local Church ruined my family", because it did, in an indirect way.

I'm sure current members would see these things and just assume it's an "attack of the enemy" - wherever they are, the enemy will be "attacking". It probably serves as reinforcement to them. Why can't members ever just consider for a minute that there are people out there who have been hurt by the LC? Is it really too difficult to admit that?

Picketing wouldn't be a consideration of mine. As to the term "attack of the enemy". In my opinion, that is a term simplified as "us versus them". "If you're not with us, you're against us". I'm sure localities such as Detroit, Mansfield, etc were perceived as the enemy because they were not with them (in the quarantine of Titus and Nigel).

boughtbyJesus · 09-25-2015, 01:11 PM

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Why can't members ever just consider for a minute that there are people out there who have been hurt by the LC? Is it really too difficult to admit that?

I have told my husband about this forum and have asked him to take a look at the real testimonies of people who have been entrenched in the "Lord's Recovery" and the LC movement, some for many many years, and who are now able to see, thanks to God's mercy and grace, the deception that they were in. I remind him that these are real people with real testimonies, not people that have been "offended" in some minor way, and what they have to say and share is real and matters!

I don't know if he actually has yet, but whenever he starts to get ugly with his condemnations and accusations against me and the church that I attend, I respond by saying "don't be afraid, the truth will set you free....localchurchdiscussions.com, it's all there in black and white for you to see and read with your own eyes."

HERn · 09-25-2015, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by boughtbyJesus

I have told my husband about this forum and have asked him to take a look at the real testimonies of people who have been entrenched in the "Lord's Recovery" and the LC movement, some for many many years, and who are now able to see, thanks to God's mercy and grace, the deception that they were in. I remind him that these are real people with real testimonies, not people that have been "offended" in some minor way, and what they have to say and share is real and matters!

I don't know if he actually has yet, but whenever he starts to get ugly with his condemnations and accusations against me and the church that I attend, I respond by saying "don't be afraid, the truth will set you free....localchurchdiscussions.com, it's all there in black and white for you to see and read with your own eyes."

I had to see the unrighteousness and evil in my local elders before I could read and believe the testimonies on this forum.

Freedom · 09-25-2015, 08:10 PM

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I had to see the unrighteousness and evil in my local elders before I could read and believe the testimonies on this forum.

If I had just been a happy go lucky LCer, I could have read these forums and become defensive of the LC. What it took for me was to have unanswered questions, to know there was something not quite right about the LC.

Intothewind · 09-25-2015, 08:29 PM

I recall finding this forum a couple years ago...it was a thread on thetraining center in boston. My gut reaction was to brush posters off as bitter...but I really began to wonder. It makes sense that most conferencegoees hardly notice protesters...it is a truth as inconvenient as fossils to a literalist.

I met with a friend who is currently in the training and told him...sort of tongue in cheek...that I found those websites he cant see and got poisoned...by untold history.

Ohio · 09-26-2015, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HERn

I had to see the unrighteousness and evil in my local elders before I could read and believe the testimonies on this forum.

This is an excellent point. Confirmed by my own journey, or should I say "exodus."

I had some particularly nasty experiences locally which prepped me spiritually (and psychologically?) for information I would later find on these LC forums.

One of the first testimonies I read was Jane Anderson's book "thread of gold."

It's easy to condemn someone else from a distance as "negative or bitter" until you have tasted it yourself firsthand.

09-12-2015, 08:27 PM	#1
Intothewind Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 243	picketers outside conferences I recall some people would hold signs saying all kinds of things about the lc. Sounds like many were ex. Lcers....since they know the when and where Did anyone stop to engage these folk?

09-13-2015, 11:57 AM	#2
TLFisher Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Renton, Washington Posts: 3,545	Re: picketers outside conferences Never heard of it happening....until now. __________________ The Church in Los Angeles 1971-1972 Phoenix 1972-1973 Albuquerque 1973-1975 Anaheim 1976-1979 San Bernardino 1979-1986 Bellevue 1993-2000 Renton 2009-2011

09-13-2015, 09:32 PM	#3
Intothewind Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 243	Re: picketers outside conferences Yeah it was fairly common. Folk would hold banners near building 8 or the hyatt in burlingame. I wish I can recall accurately sone of them. I recall one accusing of the church taking property from them in some way

09-16-2015, 02:21 AM	#5
bearbear Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 734	Re: picketers outside conferences I remember coming across one of these picketers as I was driving away from a regional type conference in Santa Clara or San Jose (not Burlingame) where Ron Kangas was speaking. Can't remember the hotel exactly. One of the people in my car saw someone that held up a sign that said "the Local Church ruined my family". I empathized with them because this was around the time I had already decided to leave the LCs and was fantasizing about escape plans in my mind but was feeling dejected because I couldn't see how my wife who was dragging me to all these conferences and trainings at the time would also come around to it. I wanted to go to talk to one of them but there were others in my car at the time. I think folks like them that have been dearly hurt could find healing at a forum such as this. __________________ 1 John 4:9 This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him.

09-25-2015, 08:29 PM	#11
Intothewind Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 243	Re: picketers outside conferences I recall finding this forum a couple years ago...it was a thread on thetraining center in boston. My gut reaction was to brush posters off as bitter...but I really began to wonder. It makes sense that most conferencegoees hardly notice protesters...it is a truth as inconvenient as fossils to a literalist. I met with a friend who is currently in the training and told him...sort of tongue in cheek...that I found those websites he cant see and got poisoned...by untold history.