A Wake Up Call - God is Speaking to Us

[Nell]

Originally Posted by awareness

Come October if nothing happens everyone that donated to Shemitah can get their money back. Put your requests in now at:

www.JonathanCahnMoneyBackGuarantee.net

If the link doesn't work it means you don't qualify. Your faith is not strong enough to qualify ... or you'd keep sending money anyway.



No money back from Jim Bakker ... you should know better.

What if "something" does happen?

Nell

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Nell

What if "something" does happen?

Nell

Nell I just heard that this is a year of Jubilee, and it is the 70th Jubilee.

Have you heard this?

[Nell]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Nell I just heard that this is a year of Jubilee, and it is the 70th Jubilee.

Have you heard this?

Yes. Sort of. According to what I've read, this could be a Jubilee year. but there isn't really a hard and fast way to tell. If it is a Jubilee year, on the secular calendar the Jubilee year doesn't begin until Sept. 14, 2015 and ends sometime in Sept/October 2016. On the 70th Jubilee, I did some checking and found this:

In September 2015 we start a new Jubilee year. The new Jubilee starts with a partical solar eclipse. It is of special note that this is 40th Jubilee Year since Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem. It is also the 70th Jubilee year since the first one was proclaimed by God. The number 40 is the Biblical time period of redemption. The number 70 has the Biblical meaning of perfect completion. So this coming Jubilee Year will very likely have very speical meaning for mankind. Perfect completion of redemption. Be prepared! Be right with God.

The evidence I've read is posted below but to recap.
1917-1918 Balfor Declaration returning Israel to the Jews.
1967-1968 Fifty years later Jerusalem is returned to control of the Jews.
2015-2016 Isn't 50 years on the secular calendar but it does represent 3 cycles of 49 years on the Hebrew calendar.

The years are calculated based on 7 years X 7 = 49 years. The next year is the 50th year, but it's also year 1 of the next 49 years. That's even in the Bible! Lev. 25:8-10 below.

So here's the problem. You have to get year 1 of the 49 years right in order to get the Jubilee year right.

In the last 2 49-year cycles, in the 50th year Israel was restored to the Jews and for the first time in 2000 years the Jews were able to return to their land. The second 50th year, Jerusalem, the Old City, was returned to the Jewish people and once again, they were able to return to their land---the holy city of Jerusalem. It's all about the land given to them by God. Since we're coming up on the 3rd 49-year cycle, world events become significant once again. What's going on in Israel related to their land? I think we should pay attention to Israel.

So it's not a simple answer. Since the 6-day war, 49 years have passed on the Hebrew calendar and that would bring us, on the secular calendar, to Sept. 14, 2015. The belief that this is the Jubilee year is based on events and calculations on the calendars.

I'm paying attention. I can't look at the news (mostly Fox News :-) ) and continue to think current events are "business as usual". I personally believe that Sept. 14, 2015 will begin the Jubilee year, but I could be wrong.

Leviticus 25:8-10New International Version (NIV)
The Year of Jubilee
8 “‘Count off seven sabbath years—seven times seven years—so that the seven sabbath years amount to a period of forty-nine years. 9 Then have the trumpet sounded everywhere on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement sound the trumpet throughout your land. 10 Consecrate the fiftieth year and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee for you; each of you is to return to your family property and to your own clan.

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Nell

In September 2015 we start a new Jubilee year. The new Jubilee starts with a partial solar eclipse. It is of special note that this is 40th Jubilee Year since Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem. It is also the 70th Jubilee year since the first one was proclaimed by God. The number 40 is the Biblical time period of redemption. The number 70 has the Biblical meaning of perfect completion. So this coming Jubilee Year will very likely have very special meaning for mankind. Perfect completion of redemption.

This site adds more detailed information including the years of the 70 Jubilees ...

Jesus died in 31 AD in the middle of the 30th Jubilee cycle. There were 40 ½ Jubilee cycles yet to occur to complete the total of 70. When Jesus comes the second time to get His people He will have reigned in heaven as king for 40 ½ Jubilee cycles. He will have reigned from 31 AD – 55 AD (1/2 Jubilee cycle) and from 55AD – 2016 AD (40 Jubilee cycles) for a total of 40 ½ Jubilee cycles.

David reigned over the children of Israel as their king. Notice how long David reigned as king: “And they anointed David king over Israel. David was thirty years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty years. In Hebron he reigned over Judah seven years and six months, and in Jerusalem he reigned thirty-three years over all Israel and Judah.” 2 Samuel 5:3-5.

David was a type of Jesus and David’s throne was given to Jesus after His resurrection. “And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS. He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.” Luke 1:31-33.

David reigned as king on earth for 40 ½ years. Jesus will reign as king in heaven for 40 ½ Jubilees.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Nell

What if "something" does happen?

Nell

Well sis, it would have to be something out of the ordinary. Not your ordinary catastrophe that happens all the time. Something like the temple mount getting blown up. Something like that. Certainly not a war in the middle east ... that's just normal stuff. Somebody could kill Trump or Obama, or even the Hildabeast, and that wouldn't be enough to convince me that the blood moon had anything to do with it. Jesus coming out of the clouds would be convincing. Bowls of wrath from God would be convincing. Is that what we're expecting?

If so maybe we should buy Jim Bakker's over priced survival kits, and enema kits (yes you heard that right $100) ... lord knows he still needs to pay back debts to the IRS ... before the lord comes back. And selling the apocalypse is the only way he knows.

[Cal]

I think the mistake with prophecy is trying to figure out what it means in detail rather than just getting the general feel for what it is telling us. Prophecy bugs pursue it in the same way Witness Lee pursued "hidden truth"--trying to find that exclusive nugget or insight into universal knowledge and enlightenment that will give you an edge.

At that point prophecy has become a distraction. You are NOT going to find some special key in Bible prophecy that will give you an edge on getting into the kingdom or whatever it is you are trying to achieve.

Here's the key: Jesus is coming back to judge the world, and you. In the meantime he expects to you live a sacrificial, holy life--serving others, spreading the gospel and putting him first. It's that simple. Don't complicate it with prophetical mumbo jumbo.