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Old 05-15-2015, 11:59 AM   #1
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I recall a variant view on this when BP gave a series of messages in Irving concerning the army and the citizens. It sounded as if the everyone would be accepted and cared for with equal care. But the truth was that after those message were over, it was only those doing the "front line" work who were worthy of anything.
Steve Isitt wrote in his The Church of Gideon and his 300 Men

The Party of Gideon
Third, by the way, I would say, we don’t like to form parties. Don’t say, “Brother Lee, I stand with you”. I don’t like to hear this. I don’t like anyone to stand with me. I don’t like to have a party. I have been in the Lord’s recovery over a half century. You all can testify in the Far East, in mainland China, in Taiwan, and in this country, I never liked to make anyone side with me to make a party. No, not at all. Right? Don’t make any party. Don’t think that we, the 400 or the 500, all got convinced and say, “Let us all stand together; we are the 300 of Gideon.” It may be okay to be the 300 of Gideon. But don’t form a party. The 300 with Gideon still loved the children of Israel. They still fought the battle for them. They never considered them as a separate party. That is a division. "

One could say to brother Steve, "you're using brother Lee's words to attack the ministry". The point has been made. Parties have been formed. It's a case of everyone's equal, but some are more equal than others. If you're 18-22 and in college, you'll be tended to. If you're in the full time training, you'll benefit from preferential treatment. If you're outside of the front line, expect to be ignored. That is however if you happen to win the lottery, it has been inferred those with significant wealth become elder/co-worker material even if their character doesn't measure up.
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Steve Isitt wrote in his The Church of Gideon and his 300 Men

The Party of Gideon
Third, by the way, I would say, we don’t like to form parties. Don’t say, “Brother Lee, I stand with you”. I don’t like to hear this. I don’t like anyone to stand with me. I don’t like to have a party. I have been in the Lord’s recovery over a half century. You all can testify in the Far East, in mainland China, in Taiwan, and in this country, I never liked to make anyone side with me to make a party. No, not at all. Right? Don’t make any party. Don’t think that we, the 400 or the 500, all got convinced and say, “Let us all stand together; we are the 300 of Gideon.” It may be okay to be the 300 of Gideon. But don’t form a party. The 300 with Gideon still loved the children of Israel. They still fought the battle for them. They never considered them as a separate party. That is a division. "

bThe point has been made. Parties have been formed. It's a case of everyone's equal, but some are more equal than others. If you're 18-22 and in college, you'll be tended to. If you're in the full time training, you'll benefit from preferential treatment. If you're outside of the front line, expect to be ignored. That is however if you happen to win the lottery, it has been inferred those with significant wealth become elder/co-worker material even if their character doesn't measure up.
Awareness also was accused of using Lee's own teaching to attack Lee.

Now who's fault is that? The teacher who speaks with "forked" tongue, or those members who happened to remember what Lee taught longer than just yesterday's message?

Who was the real Lee? On so many issues, we can go to Lee's writings and get seriously conflicting opinions. For example, Lee taught us repeatedly that we should never be "of man," yet with numerous other teachings and personal encouragement, Lee strongly promoted a following of blendeds who could only be classified as being "of Lee." As in Corinth, this simply created divisions. Apostle Paul warned us to only boast in Christ, yet today's Blindeds teach the saints to boast in Lee.
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Now who's fault is that? The teacher who speaks with "forked" tongue, or those members who happened to remember what Lee taught longer than just yesterday's message?

Who was the real Lee? On so many issues, we can go to Lee's writings and get seriously conflicting opinions. For example, Lee taught us repeatedly that we should never be "of man," yet with numerous other teachings and personal encouragement, Lee strongly promoted a following of blendeds who could only be classified as being "of Lee." As in Corinth, this simply created divisions. Apostle Paul warned us to only boast in Christ, yet today's Blindeds teach the saints to boast in Lee.
Do as I say and not as I do. Speak one thing, but practice another? Matthew 23 anyone?
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