The Psalms are the word of Christ

[Lisbon]

Originally Posted by OBW

The funny thing about this argument is that even we "rot in the grave" until the resurrection. So David is in no worse position than we are. And unless there was truly a different covenant in that day (which there was), not a single one of them have any hope for the future. None of them were righteous and none were without sin, therefore, according to Lee, they would all "rot in the grave." I guess he must mean forever. Even Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, etc. But they did have a hope. And it was not simply that the Messiah would come an save those who live after them at the time of the Messiah or after. That is no hope at all if it only resides in those who are as yet unborn.

I came into the LC the fall of 72, and officially Jan 1 73. I came in much the result of having read WN. I think I remember WN saying if you are wrong with money you are wrong with everything. Some of you well read posters can agree with this or maybe it was Ben Franklin. It certainly didn't originate with me. I do think it's right. So of course what I am coming to is that WL was wrong with money so..... My hearing is that WL had money troubles that people knew about at least back in the 50's. It seems very likely that he is traveling 6000 miles to Seattle in 1962 to sell Chinese menswear to help his situation monetarily. But it didn't work. This venture was well hidden in the DFW area however a close friend of mine was in Elden and as others have posted help try to salvage something of this venture although they were not successful. They probably ended up at Goodwill.

After this came Day Star. What a can of worms. I lost $1000, no big deal, but others lost their life's savings. Then tennis rackets, just lost $250 there. Then church chairs. To me it's not that easy to place the blame and loss on these foregoing but when we gets to selling the ministry, that's pretty easy.
Since around 1975 there have been around 4000 in attendance at the winter and summer trainings. Unless my arithmetic has gone to you know where, that comes out to 32 million dollars without including the video trainings and books. This kind of money is in the Paul Crouch-Jimmie Swaggart arena.

And of course this isn't all. There's the dumping of dozens of "co-workers" which actually he had none.

WL was not that smart so could not do that much till WN left the scene. But freed, he became the Little General. He figured out a lot of things in his head but I doubt he had any revelation at all. I just don't think our God gives big revelations to the wicked.

He had a good cover which he maintained til death
Lisbon

[aron]

Originally Posted by Lisbon

WL was not that smart so could not do that much till WN left the scene. But freed, he became the Little General.

We can see why WL loved the "ground of the church" so much. It gave him unfettered access to the lives and pockets of the parishioners. Just like with WN, who could come back from shame and exile in the late-1940s and promote (demand?) the "handing over" of everything to "the church". And I guess WN initially made an example for everyone by handing over all his possessions to himself. (A little humor, there)

Originally Posted by Lisbon

He figured out a lot of things in his head but I doubt he had any revelation at all. I just don't think our God gives big revelations to the wicked.

Well the Psalms exposed this lack of revelation like nothing else that I have seen. Matthew 21:44 says, "Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; anyone on whom it falls will be crushed." WL tried to dismiss the Psalms as natural writings but instead they crushed and spit out his ministry like so much "natural" dust. It was a completely failed exegesis in my view.