Good vs. Lee's Trees

[aron]

Originally Posted by Ohio

and don't tell us what Lee meant, we were there for all the messages.

What I find so fascinating, here, is that the idea of the "ground", which supposedly opened up the "life-gate", goes hand in hand with the idea of "Deputy God". So the first either needs the second, to keep going, or it is a ready mark to be usurped by the second. Either way, if you get the "ground', soon enough you get the Deputy God.

Bear with me here, while I run through it.

First off, the ground of oneness opens up the blessing. The Spirit now flows free. We all see that.

Psalm 133. 1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

2 It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;

3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.

But the problem is that "life" is so subjective. "So subjective is my Christ to me; real in me and rich and sweet" Hymns, #537.

But what if your subjective Christ gets "life" to do this, and I get "life" to do that? What do we do?

Voila - the Deputy God! Just ask the DG what gives him "life". Heck, we don't even need the Bible. Just ask the DG (or Mota, or "our brother", or "God's oracle" or "the apostle" or whatever we're calling him this month).

Just do what the DG says and you get "life". How simple, how easy. Like awareness says, all your hard work has been done for you. You don't even need to think. And don't worry what WL said, just ask the Blendeds - they were there. They know. They are his "continuation, his life-increase, and his spread". -Hymns, #203

[Freedom]

Originally Posted by aron

But the problem is that "life" is so subjective. "So subjective is my Christ to me; real in me and rich and sweet" Hymns, #537.

But what if your subjective Christ gets "life" to do this, and I get "life" to do that? What do we do?

Voila - the Deputy God! Just ask the DG what gives him "life". Heck, we don't even need the Bible. Just ask the DG (or Mota, or "our brother", or "God's oracle" or "the apostle" or whatever we're calling him this month).

Just do what the DG says and you get "life". How simple, how easy. Like awareness says, all your hard work has been done for you. You don't even need to think. And don't worry what WL said, just ask the Blendeds - they were there. They know. They are his "continuation, his life-increase, and his spread". -Hymns, #203

When I really think about it, I'm not even sure that you could even put a concrete definition on what Lee meant by "life". Sure I know what I think he meant, but in reality, those in the LC have associated "life" with being some type of feeling. It's mainly something associated with feeling all warm and fuzzy inside. That's where the danger is because: 1) it's completely a subjective concept (there isn't a good working definition) and 2) it can only be associated with certain types of predefined feelings. In normal human interaction, there is no such thing as feeling good all the time or only being able to make decisions that make you feel good. I don't see that kind of example in the Bible either.

Quite to the contrary, the example that Jesus set was partly that of confronting "negative" situations. He debated people, and my favorite is when he confronted the money changers in the temple and drove them out. Obviously that wasn't a positive situation, and I'm sure that those with him wouldn't have sensed "life" in the way the LC defines it. It was a confrontational situation, yet this is part of the example that Jesus set. Jesus and his disciples didn't go out of their way to avoid confrontational situations or reasoning with people. On the contrary, Lee was the one who forbade thinking about right and wrong, considering situation, confronting problems, etc. When brothers called him out for his own money changing activities, he insulated himself. That was always his way out of everything, saying "we need to just focus on life..."

[awareness]

Originally Posted by aron quotes

Psalm 133. 1 Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!

2 It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;

3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.

Those very verses were pray-read in the meetings, to support the Flow of Oneness that Mel Porter, the lead elder in the church in Ft. Lauderdale, came back from Anaheim with.

The Flow of Oneness was supported with Rev. 22:1. It was said that the river of life, carried the authority of the throne, to the apostle on the earth: Witness Lee.

And Lee was likened to Aaron in Psalms 133. It was said. that, the anointing came down from Lee, thru the elders, and finally, to the "garments," or us little ones.

I couldn't go with the Flow of Oneness, wasn't against God, Christ, or the Bible, but had to go ... according to Mel Porter. Thank God for that.