A Wake Up Call - God is Speaking to Us

[OBW]

awareness,

I think that you still get a little nutsy on some of these issues, but overall we agree on the jest of it, even if not on all the details.

For one, I don't think you have to insist on tossing Revelation to realize that there is a lot in there that you don't understand yet do recognize your need for action in this life.

And for me it always comes back to this life. Those who are too interested in the afterlife often ignore this life. And it makes for pretty pathetic versions of "salt and light." Somehow people that just go around railing on sinners and pining to see the new Left Behind movies don't have anything like the impact on the world that they think they do.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by OBW

awareness,

I think that you still get a little nutsy on some of these issues, but overall we agree on the jest of it, even if not on all the details.

For one, I don't think you have to insist on tossing Revelation to realize that there is a lot in there that you don't understand yet do recognize your need for action in this life.

And for me it always comes back to this life. Those who are too interested in the afterlife often ignore this life. And it makes for pretty pathetic versions of "salt and light." Somehow people that just go around railing on sinners and pining to see the new Left Behind movies don't have anything like the impact on the world that they think they do.

Thanks Mike for tolerating my nuttiness.

Pretty much since diapers I've had much to do with the book of Rev. From my Southern Baptist days, to my own reading, to many sermons on it, including in the LC, and afterwards. For a long time I was spellbound by the book. And during that time I was into prophecy, Hal (Harold) Lindsey style. That's when I was nutty as far as I'm concerned now.

Of course all prophecies have failed, including those of the esteemed Lindsey. But it was seeing Christians that were/are into the Left Behind series that soured me on prophecy and the book of Rev. even more. I saw how crazy it made them, and their attitudes towards those that didn't believe, that God's wrath was coming to get them (not loving them as Jesus taught in the gospels). The Christians I knew went loony for those novels, like they were/are real ... ending up not loving their neighbors but harboring the wish of wrath upon them ... that's so not the Jesus of the gospels ... actually antithetical to Jesus of the gospels.

So I read up on the book some time ago, and found out about the early disagreement with it, questions of authorship, and even accusations of forgery, and the like.

As a result I no longer think of the book as I once did.

And ... I no longer trust in modern day prophets, such as Jonathan Cahn. I think their whole basis is off base.

And that 'bout sums it up.

I realize, like Nell pointed out, that some may be stumbled by my claims about the book. But as I see it, billions over the centuries have been stumbled away from the love spoken of by both Jesus and Paul, into craziness by the book.

[awareness]

"This Saturday will be the third of four total eclipses in the 18-month long tetrad series. Previous eclipses occurred on April 15, 2014 and. Oct. 8, 2014. After Saturday, the next one is expected on Sept. 28, 2015. Such a closely-spaced succession of eclipses is a fairly rare occurrence.

Some Christians believe the blood moon lunar eclipse tetrad could be connected to Jesus’ return — or signify a world-changing event about to take place.
According to the King James Bible, “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord comes,” (Joel 2:31)."
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...aster-weekend/

[Nell]

Originally Posted by awareness

"This Saturday will be the third of four total eclipses in the 18-month long tetrad series. Previous eclipses occurred on April 15, 2014 and. Oct. 8, 2014. After Saturday, the next one is expected on Sept. 28, 2015. Such a closely-spaced succession of eclipses is a fairly rare occurrence.

Some Christians believe the blood moon lunar eclipse tetrad could be connected to Jesus’ return — or signify a world-changing event about to take place.
According to the King James Bible, “The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord comes,” (Joel 2:31)."
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...aster-weekend/

So what do you think, Awareness?

Nell

[Nell]

This is a long message from Jonathan Cahn given, as best as I can tell, July 28, 2015. He gives an update of what has happened since Sept. 25, 2014. It's worth a listen.

http://elshaddaiministries.us/specia...final_hour.php
Scroll down to the link "The Mystery of What Lies Ahead".

1 Thessalonians 5:19-22
19 Quench not the Spirit.
20 Despise not prophesyings.
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

(Amo 3:7) Surely the Lord GOD does nothing Unless He reveals His secret counsel To His servants the prophets.

Nell

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Nell

This is a long message from Jonathan Cahn given, as best as I can tell, July 28, 2015. He gives an update of what has happened since Sept. 25, 2014. It's worth a listen.

http://elshaddaiministries.us/specia...final_hour.php
Scroll down to the link "The Mystery of What Lies Ahead".

1 Thessalonians 5:19-22
19 Quench not the Spirit.
20 Despise not prophesyings.
21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

(Amo 3:7) Surely the Lord GOD does nothing Unless He reveals His secret counsel To His servants the prophets.

Nell

Thanks for the update Nell. I'm waiting for Oct. 1 ....

Then we can talk, if able.

[Nell]

Interesting news dated March 9, 2015

The Temple Institute in Jerusalem has announced that it has finished building an altar suitable for the Temple service. The altar, which took several years to build, can be operational at little more than a moment’s notice, reported Matzav Haruach magazine. ...

What makes the altar so unique is that it can be disassembled and reassembled easily, allowing it to be transported quickly and efficiently from its current location, on display at the institute, to the Temple Mount when the time comes...

http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/32...vSVpJZ3hRFL.97

Nell