God's Eternal Purpose

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Originally Posted by InChristAlone

Then you are in your own trap because you think that the Lord speaks of His own flesh, asking His disciples to eat it, but at the same time He finds that His flesh counts for nothing. Do you find it logical?

"The flesh" that Christ speaks of in John 6:63, is flesh in the sense of our lustful, sinful human nature. The spirit therefore is the life-giving Grace; which is consistently juxtaposed against "the flesh" throughout the Biblical text.

Some people become confused by what Lord Jesus Christ said after the disciples complained. He said, “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life” (Jn 6:63). They mistakenly think that this is proof that Lord Jesus Christ is saying that He only means that the disciples will eat His Flesh and drink His Blood spiritually and not literally. But it is illogical that the Lord would say that His Flesh “profits nothing” (useless) after saying that it gives life (v 53). Rather, Lord Jesus Christ is not talking about His Flesh, but about their flesh. He is telling the unbelieving disciples that they cannot grasp or come to His blessed teaching on the Eucharist by their senses or their flesh which “profits nothing” for this purpose, but only through faith or Spirit.

There is no trap ICA.

I do not find the Lord's words here to be illogical. They are spiritual rather, and the natural mind cannot know them. I Cor 2.14

The flesh in John 6.63 is not our sinful flesh, but our Lord's own flesh which is not sinful. John 1.14 says that the "Word became flesh, and tabernacled among us." His flesh has no sin, rather it was a tabernacle for the Word of God as He walked on earth. He was in the likeness of the flesh of sin. Rom 8.3

John 6.63 is our Lord's explanation to His disciples concerning their dilemma and confusion in 6.60-62. I am not mistaken to think this way as you assume, neither am I confused, and neither is my understanding illogical as you say.

What the Lord spoke requires faith, as He told the disciples in 6.64. Unfortunately some of the disciples were stumbled at this word and no longer walked with the Lord. 6.66-67

Concerning what the Lord was speaking to them about eating Him in John 6.57, His tabernacle in the flesh of His earthly body profited them nothing. John 6.63 Without a spirit of faith, as displayed by Peter in 6.68, they mistakenly thought that Jesus needed to be eaten like a roasted lamb, and they just could not understand this. Jesus firstly had to go to the cross, so that He could become true manna and true drink. The Last Adam became a life-giving Spirit. Praise Him!