What ever happened to Max Rappaport, John Ingells?

OBW · 07-03-2014, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by UntoHim

Just sharing my observations bro. Call it scrutinizing if you wish, but unlike the LRC I actually went to the fellowship (more than once), observed with my own eyes and ears, and then reported as to what I saw and heard. If you think I'm being overly critical, I can live with that. But please don't place my criticisms in the same category of the Local Church's "poor, poor Christianity" nonsense, cause what I posted is not even in the same league...not even close.

I don't think that we would intentionally duplicate the LRC's nastiness. But sometimes I like to remind myself as I think about other groups that my observations may still be somewhat colored by the LRC's skewed view of what should be.

And that is the reason that so many want to leave the LRC and duplicate it. Because they still think there is something almost magical about those teachings concerning ground, or stand, or something.

I'm far past being that way on a grand scale. But I still find myself thinking about certain of the leeks and garlic of the LRC. Just smaller amounts so that it is not immediately identifiable (to me) as having come from that storehouse of leeks and garlic.

Of course, we have to be careful that in throwing out leeks and garlic we don't throw our faith out with it.

UntoHim · 07-04-2014, 07:36 PM

Just saw your reply now. Thanks for taking the time to clarify Mike. Sorry I got a little chippy with you...probably just a little of those leeks and garlic pieces stuck between my teeth

HERn · 07-05-2014, 08:18 AM

I was told that he wanted to become the "Coordinator of the One New Man" and was ambitious?

awareness · 07-05-2014, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HERn

I was told that he wanted to become the "Coordinator of the One New Man" and was ambitious?

Hey, I got his Kindle book. It was cheap ... a dollar and change. Our brother Max is really hung on himself. His mother must have told him he was special, and he believed her. He's a pitchman ; a used Jesus salesman. All that's missing is the plaid jacket.

Him and Lee were two peas in a pod. They both were pitchin' life insurance ...

NewManLiving · 08-22-2014, 10:18 PM

Concerning Max: What do you see? A used Jesus salesman, or
a broken man with a contrite spirit who loves The Lord with incorruptible
Love. I guess that answer would depend on the condition of our own
Hearts and our own relationship to The Lord

Take a look at the community archive and judge for yourself. Have not
Seen the link here so I am assuming there is no other thread with this link

https://archive.org/details/ReligionVersusReality

awareness · 08-23-2014, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NewManLiving

Concerning Max: What do you see? A used Jesus salesman, or
a broken man with a contrite spirit who loves The Lord with incorruptible
Love. I guess that answer would depend on the condition of our own
Hearts and our own relationship to The Lord

Take a look at the community archive and judge for yourself. Have not
Seen the link here so I am assuming there is no other thread with this link

https://archive.org/details/ReligionVersusReality

My goodness NML, after seeing and hearing Max I'm contrite of heart. He is not the Max I remember, the one I pictured in my head all these years. I only see traces of that old(young) Max.

And yes, NML, I see a broken man with a contrite spirit.

Who admits to mistakes in his past, and living narcissistically. I remember that. I remember those days. I remember Max the braggart.

He also admits that the Lord chastised him for it, telling him, "look how your decision hurt yourself, and your family." Well I ask, how about all the other brothers and sisters you hurt? the Lord didn't care about them? He didn't chastise you for hurting them.

But thanks bro NML, for linking to Max. It has moved me to forgive that used Jesus salesman. Lord knows it's about time that I do so.

It's funny how pictures in our head, of the past, don't change, like time does.

Lord forgive me for my foolishness. For failing to see how silly were those days when Max was pumping (retailing) Witness Less ... and for taking them so seriously.

I was, back in those days, as foolish as Max was (but he was a big-shot at it). I have no room to speak. Seems the large beam in my eye didn't bother me as much as that teensy little splinter in Max's eye.

NewManLiving · 08-23-2014, 07:27 AM

I was a young man in those days and Max was about 10 years older
I recall the time that we were in the process of purchasing a meeting
Hall from a free-group. Some of us young zealots would go frequently to
See this pastor or to attend his meetings simply for the reason to beat him
With a Christ vs religion bat. At first it was an attempt to convince him
Of "the more perfect way". But when he did not take the bait we made
It a point to let him know how dark and dead he and his congregation
Were. I also recall when some of us young brothers worked together
At a factory. We would often wear our gospel robes and march in.
Eventually this became a judgement hall for the sins committed by our
Unbelieving co-workers. While we did save a couple of people, most
Of the workers hated our superiority and our exposing their sins.

So for me I am just as guilty as anyone for not obeying The Lord as I
suppose most of us were to some degree.
To this I truly repent. But praise The Lord He is truly merciful
And all loving.

Today I am confident that He will complete the work
He has begun in me until the day of His appearing. I enjoy Him and love
Him so much more now then at any other time of my life. I see my High
Priest sitting at the right hand of the Father interceding for me to save
Me to the uttermost for His glorious Kingdom. I see a Christ who loved me
And mercifully pulled me out of my own vomit. I can honestly say that my
Past life may have been more sinful than what Max reveals about himself
I fell back into the world head first after leaving the movement. Each decade
Became worse and worse until I was close to death. Then one day a few years
Ago The Lord came to me.

My dear sweet loving Lord I love you with my soul. I present my body
To you as a living sacrifice for you to will and do in me for your good
Pleasure
NML

07-04-2014, 07:36 PM	#2
UntoHim Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον For God So Loved The World Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,827	Re: What ever happened to Max Rappaport, John Ingells? Just saw your reply now. Thanks for taking the time to clarify Mike. Sorry I got a little chippy with you...probably just a little of those leeks and garlic pieces stuck between my teeth __________________ αὐτῷ ἡ δόξα καὶ τὸ κράτος εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων ἀμήν - 1 Peter 5:11

07-05-2014, 08:18 AM	#3
HERn Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 969	Re: What ever happened to Max Rappaport, John Ingells? I was told that he wanted to become the "Coordinator of the One New Man" and was ambitious?

08-22-2014, 10:18 PM	#5
NewManLiving Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 153	Re: What ever happened to Max Rappaport, John Ingells? Concerning Max: What do you see? A used Jesus salesman, or a broken man with a contrite spirit who loves The Lord with incorruptible Love. I guess that answer would depend on the condition of our own Hearts and our own relationship to The Lord Take a look at the community archive and judge for yourself. Have not Seen the link here so I am assuming there is no other thread with this link https://archive.org/details/ReligionVersusReality

08-23-2014, 07:27 AM	#7
NewManLiving Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 153	Re: What ever happened to Max Rappaport, John Ingells? I was a young man in those days and Max was about 10 years older I recall the time that we were in the process of purchasing a meeting Hall from a free-group. Some of us young zealots would go frequently to See this pastor or to attend his meetings simply for the reason to beat him With a Christ vs religion bat. At first it was an attempt to convince him Of "the more perfect way". But when he did not take the bait we made It a point to let him know how dark and dead he and his congregation Were. I also recall when some of us young brothers worked together At a factory. We would often wear our gospel robes and march in. Eventually this became a judgement hall for the sins committed by our Unbelieving co-workers. While we did save a couple of people, most Of the workers hated our superiority and our exposing their sins. So for me I am just as guilty as anyone for not obeying The Lord as I suppose most of us were to some degree. To this I truly repent. But praise The Lord He is truly merciful And all loving. Today I am confident that He will complete the work He has begun in me until the day of His appearing. I enjoy Him and love Him so much more now then at any other time of my life. I see my High Priest sitting at the right hand of the Father interceding for me to save Me to the uttermost for His glorious Kingdom. I see a Christ who loved me And mercifully pulled me out of my own vomit. I can honestly say that my Past life may have been more sinful than what Max reveals about himself I fell back into the world head first after leaving the movement. Each decade Became worse and worse until I was close to death. Then one day a few years Ago The Lord came to me. My dear sweet loving Lord I love you with my soul. I present my body To you as a living sacrifice for you to will and do in me for your good Pleasure NML