Our Journey to Elden in Jan 1971

[Elden1971]

Originally Posted by Elden1971

In reflecting back on our experience at Elden Hall the most positive thing was the Fellowship that existed in the home meetings, service groups, giving of hospitality and of course the Love Feasts on Saturday nights. One wonderful memory was when we just could not handle the heat and smog and loaded up our kids and drove to the mountains to a campsite and suddenly discovered several other families from Elden had all done the same thing. What a wonderful time of fellowship, singing, and praising the Lord. The love and care between the saints was what attracted others not the ministry.

The best thing about the conferences was not the meetings but the fellowship between the saints in the homes. We once had 27 saints for hospitality for 10 days. It was glorious ( and yes we did have a large home)!

[Ohio]

Originally Posted by Elden1971

The best thing about the conferences was not the meetings but the fellowship between the saints in the homes. We once had 27 saints for hospitality for 10 days. It was glorious ( and yes we did have a large home)!

Elden1971, the typical LSMer will naturally respond that the only reason for the glorious hospitality, and the rich fellowship in the homes, and the joyful singing in the mountains, was the exceeding riches being dispensed by Witness Lee, the Minister of the Age.

[Elden1971]

Originally Posted by Ohio

Elden1971, the typical LSMer will naturally respond that the only reason for the glorious hospitality, and the rich fellowship in the homes, and the joyful singing in the mountains, was the exceeding riches being dispensed by Witness Lee, the Minister of the Age.

Fortunately for us that was not the case and interestingly over 95% of those in Elden that cared for us all left within a few years. I can not even relate to what you and others experienced and the current situation is difficult to comprehend. I tried to read some of the high peak messages this week but was so grieved I had to stop after a few minutes. I am so glad the Lord removed us and spared us the craziness of the last 3 decades.

[InChristAlone]

Originally Posted by Elden1971

I can not even relate to what you and others experienced and the current situation is difficult to comprehend. I tried to read some of the high peak messages this week but was so grieved I had to stop after a few minutes.

The "high peak" truth is still there, in books, in messages, and in Morning Revivals. Here is one of the latest titles: "Entering into the Fourth Stage of the Experience of Life to Arrive at a Full-grown Man for the Fulfillment of God's Purpose." Unfortunately, saints take it at its face value.

[Elden1971]

Originally Posted by InChristAlone

The "high peak" truth is still there, in books, in messages, and in Morning Revivals. Here is one of the latest titles: "Entering into the Fourth Stage of the Experience of Life to Arrive at a Full-grown Man for the Fulfillment of God's Purpose." Unfortunately, saints take it at its face value.

Two of the biggest disappointments to me were the two books The knowledge of Life and The experience of Life. Lee talked about Life and wrote about Life but knew very little of Life as evidenced by his lack of Life manifested in his life. Witness Lee was no "witness" Lee. He was not the MOTA nor was NEE. They were flawed men who admitted to "borrowing" the teachings of others and have caused great harm to countless members of the Body of Christ by perpetuating false teachings. This is not some rant, but the conclusion of 35 years of careful study of the writings of those who Nee and Lee specifically mention in their messages and years of intimate fellowship. I am a vessel of mercy and I thank God for His mercy everyday. His mercy endureth forever!

[InChristAlone]

Originally Posted by Elden1971

Two of the biggest disappointments to me were the two books The knowledge of Life and The experience of Life. Lee talked about Life and wrote about Life but knew very little of Life as evidenced by his lack of Life manifested in his life. Witness Lee was no "witness" Lee. He was not the MOTA nor was NEE. They were flawed men who admitted to "borrowing" the teachings of others and have caused great harm to countless members of the Body of Christ by perpetuating false teachings. This is not some rant, but the conclusion of 35 years of careful study of the writings of those who Nee and Lee specifically mention in their messages and years of intimate fellowship. I am a vessel of mercy and I thank God for His mercy everyday. His mercy endureth forever!

Amen!

Nee and Lee were false teachers, "blind guides leading the blind." Even if they had sight, they had no vision.

[Elden1971]

Let me make something explicitly clear regarding Witness Lee. I knew Witness Lee, I was a guest in his apartment on Westmoreland in LA, in his apartment on Juno in Anaheim and I helped move him into his duplex along with his son Philip. I knew 3 of his 6 children and I spent private one on one time with him and all of them. I know personally 10 of the blended brothers. When I post about them it is from my personal experience not from something I have read. John, Bill, Al and Godfred were all friends and I still have periodic contact with them. Don Hardy and I visit almost every week and his testimony is being written and hopefully will appear soon. I would welcome calls from anyone who wishes to know the truth of the early years and the results of my research over the past 35 years.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Elden1971

I tried to read some of the high peak messages this week but was so grieved I had to stop after a few minutes

Same thing happened to me when trying to read the Kindle book you loaned me Terry.

Tried to read Amazing Grace (click) by Watchman Nee. Couldn't stomach it.