The ground on which the church should be built

[ZNPaaneah]

Originally Posted by Thankful Jane

Not simple. Not straightforward. Not a "departure" but an "expulsion."

Max was not fired, he was betrayed—much more insidious.

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Max did not portray himself as innocent when he gave us his account of events. He confessed that, much to his shame, he had functioned as Lee’s right hand man and carried out his wishes. He had done nothing without Lee’s blessing and approval. This included manipulating churches and elders. Max confessed to us his shame over this fact and made it plain to us that he had thoroughly repented for this behavior, admitting it was fueled by his own ambition.

This is the same kind of ambition that motivated those who helped Lee oust Max and cover Phillip’s sin in order to gain a place at Lee’s right hand. Those same men are continuing today to live out their ambition as some of the Lee-blessed Blendeds.

They continue to support and re-enforce the lies that began in that not-so-simple betrayal. Saddest of all is the fact that they really seem to believe their version of the Max story (as we can see by Cassidy's representation). That's how darkness works.

Very interesting. WL's right hand man feels shame and guilt at the things he did at WL's behest. He did these things motivated out of ambition.

I think it is very clear that the same can be said of BP and RG in closing their eyes, closing their ears and covering their mouths when JI visited. They were motivated by ambition. The same can be said of EM and KR. The writing of the whitewash is just one example. They don't allow these guys to get to the upper echelon unless they have done things they are ashamed of. They are much less likely to expose the sins of WL, etal if it involves exposing their own sins as well.

Also, when WL rolls into damage control he begins by slandering and defaming these ones. This is a lot more effective since much of what he says is true. This is why he wants dirt on the "right hand men" before he elevates them to a position where they can see his dirt.

This is "cunning craftiness" whereby "they lie in wait to deceive".

[TLFisher]

Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah

I think it is very clear that the same can be said of BP and RG in closing their eyes, closing their ears and covering their mouths when JI visited. They were motivated by ambition. The same can be said of EM and KR. The writing of the whitewash is just one example. They don't allow these guys to get to the upper echelon unless they have done things they are ashamed of. They are much less likely to expose the sins of WL, etal if it involves exposing their own sins as well.

The portion of ZNP's post I put in bold because that account is fund in John Ingall's book Speaking the Truth in Love. John was with Ken Unger (who passed away last ummer) when they visited Benson and Ray. The response BP and RG gave indicates culpability on their account. IMHO BP and RG most likely did not need to be told anything of PL they did not already know.

When ZNP speaks of "the upper echelon", as it currently implies Blended bros. If all persons involved in the late 80's turmoil were to be transparent, it would be exposing of many current blended brothers. The only one I'm aware of wo had publicly repented for any role was MC.

When Steve Isitt wrote to DT in 2001 in good faith for fellowship through In Wake of the New Way, in retrospect Steve probably thought DT would reciprocate in good faith. As we now know, that did not happen. Very likley DT gave a word of fellowship to someone which issued in Steve's discipline. IMHO there was and still is too much pride to repent for roles in the late 80's turmoil.